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December 23, 2009, 06:44 PM | #1 |
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44 mag lswc with gas check bluedot loads
I recently purchased a S&W 629 classic with 6 1/2 inch barrel. I am new to reloading cast bullets and have a supply of 240 gr. lswc bullets with gas checks and also a supply of Blue Dot powder. As I cannot find any published data in my reloading manual I was wondering if anyone had any info using these components.
Speer manual # 13 lists a load using 240gr. jacketed bullets with min 12.3 gr. and max 13.7 gr. of Blue Dot. Would these be suitable for the gas checked lead bullets? The published velocities for these are 1186 for the min and 1285 fps for the max. |
December 23, 2009, 08:35 PM | #2 |
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what lswc ??? Lyman , rcbs or other??
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December 23, 2009, 09:25 PM | #3 |
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Actually these are commercially produced bullets form cactus plains ammuniton. I just opened up the box and found they do not have gas checks, as the salesman had told me. They are just a lswc. I guess blue dot would not be appropriate for these bullets? I also have some Green Dot on hand I would imagine would work alot better.
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December 23, 2009, 11:29 PM | #4 |
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My 46th Lyman gives for a 429421 PB 245 swc :
Bluedot 15grs. =941fps & 20,000 cup start 18.4grs.=1196fps & 35,500 cup max All with a CCI 300 LP primer . I`d leave green dot for the dove loads Just my opinion though
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December 24, 2009, 10:48 AM | #5 |
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Not a problem, you don't need a gas check for ~1200fps.
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December 24, 2009, 11:08 AM | #6 |
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Not gas checked?
Lyman's 48th shows a 240gr Lyman #429667 as: 14.0gr = 933fps @ 24,500 CUP (min) 15.5gr = 1159fps @ 36,000 CUP (max) This is seated to 1.645" OAL, CCI #300 and Remington brass. |
December 24, 2009, 12:34 PM | #7 |
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GP100man, are you sure that 18.4 grain max load is correct? It seems excessive for a 240 grain SWC, and the velocities for both those loads you mention seem low.
If I remember right, 15.5 grains of Blue Dot in my 6" Colt Anaconda gave me about 1250 fps with 240 grain Lasercast SWCs. 16 or 16.5 started giving me excessive pressure signs. I don't have my notes with me, so I don't know the exact charge weight were things started to get squirrely. I guess if it's all you have, then Blue Dot would be okay, but I much prefer 2400 or W296/H110 for full power loads. Your Green Dot would probably make very nice light plinkers. Mike |
December 24, 2009, 12:43 PM | #8 |
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H11o was my first choice but the gun shop seems to be out of stock of it and other suitable powders.
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December 24, 2009, 09:55 PM | #9 |
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429421
Yep , even went & got my glasses!!!
Keep in mind that the 429421 is a big nosed bullet , 2 small drivin bands & a lube groove . I`ve never seen or heard of cactus plains ammo & don`t know the profile of the bullet but the data for the 429667 should work since it`s a deep seater profile, or data for a 429244 bullet.
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December 24, 2009, 10:47 PM | #10 |
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16.5 grains of Blue Dot with a 250 or 255 grain cast bullet is a good (but not ridiculous) "Ruger" load for .45LC, so 16.5 grains should also be a good .44 Magnum load with 240 grain bullets. But you need to work up to it.
BTW, AA#7 powder is a pretty good replacement for Blue Dot, without all the drama.
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December 25, 2009, 11:51 AM | #11 |
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Blue Dot..... 14.0gr = 933fps 15.5gr = 1159fp Alliant Blue Dot......max 16.6gr = 1475fps Last edited by reloader28; December 26, 2009 at 12:41 AM. Reason: miss read the Lyman book....it was late |
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