Target Loads with Universal Clays

ArmySon · September 20, 2000, 09:31 PM

I've been using Bullseye, Titegroup, Clays, and W231. My stock is about depleted so instead of buying a 4 lb jug, I bought a container of Universal Clays to try out. Does anybody have a good target load with this powder? Am I better off with Bullseye and Titegroup? BTW, this is for a 5" barrel 1911 .45 ACP.

ya ya ya I understand the disclaimers

rinoray · September 21, 2000, 08:06 AM

Son,
Pulled this from my Hogdon manual:

Some of my loads that work well for target with Uni-Clays are:
Nosler 185gr FMJ FP 6.6gr 1.200 OAL
W.Coast 200gr FMJ RN 6.2gr 1.230 "
W.Coast 230gr FMJ RN 5.6gr 1.250 "
moderate but accurate.
Fired from Colt Series 80 Barsto barrel & Bul M5 hicap polymer (kimer poly cousin)
Hope it helps!
Regards,

[This message has been edited by rinoray (edited September 21, 2000).]

ArmySon · September 21, 2000, 08:13 AM

rinoray

Thanks for the info! Do you have an experiences using 200 grain lead semi-wadcutters with Universal Clays?

WESHOOT2 · September 21, 2000, 08:18 AM

I do, but ultimate best 200g LSWC results still are with W231.

Universal Clays is very very good....

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"All my ammo is factory ammo"

rinoray · September 21, 2000, 10:23 AM

Son.
Yes, I have some loaded from last week.
200gr LSWC
5.8gr U/C
1.250 OAL
Starline cases - Win LPP
Good recoil control and are pretty accurate, more the gun than me. Off of rest 2-3" group, nice round holes - no keyholes @ 50'.
Enjoy!

ArmySon · September 21, 2000, 10:33 AM

rinoray

Did you chrono that load at all? If so, what's the velocity? With a 200 grain lswc with that load, I'm guessing around 775-800 fps? Anything over 850 fps and I start getting lead residue in my barrel.

rinoray · September 21, 2000, 10:39 AM

Sorry,
Our clubs chrono was shot and is in disrepair. I can only guess (not very scientific), but, would put them at around 790-800 - that's what they chronograph indicated on previous similar loads. Haven't noticed any lead build up in barrel, unless I'm using soft bullets. Are your hard cast?

ArmySon · September 21, 2000, 11:31 AM

Yes they are hard cast but when I practice, I do a lot of defensive shooting. Meaning, lots of double taps and emptying the mag really fast.

When I'm shooting for accuracy, it's not a problem.

rinoray · September 21, 2000, 01:49 PM

Son.
I always use my FMJ bullets for defense. I would recommend starting 0.5 gr down around 5.3 and see what you get. For double taps maybe a good baseline.

September 20, 2000, 09:31 PM	#1
ArmySon Staff Alumnus Join Date: April 14, 2000 Posts: 2,926	I've been using Bullseye, Titegroup, Clays, and W231. My stock is about depleted so instead of buying a 4 lb jug, I bought a container of Universal Clays to try out. Does anybody have a good target load with this powder? Am I better off with Bullseye and Titegroup? BTW, this is for a 5" barrel 1911 .45 ACP. ya ya ya I understand the disclaimers

September 21, 2000, 08:06 AM	#2
rinoray Member Join Date: March 11, 2000 Posts: 71	Son, Pulled this from my Hogdon manual: Some of my loads that work well for target with Uni-Clays are: Nosler 185gr FMJ FP 6.6gr 1.200 OAL W.Coast 200gr FMJ RN 6.2gr 1.230 " W.Coast 230gr FMJ RN 5.6gr 1.250 " moderate but accurate. Fired from Colt Series 80 Barsto barrel & Bul M5 hicap polymer (kimer poly cousin) Hope it helps! Regards, [This message has been edited by rinoray (edited September 21, 2000).]

September 21, 2000, 08:13 AM	#3
ArmySon Staff Alumnus Join Date: April 14, 2000 Posts: 2,926	rinoray Thanks for the info! Do you have an experiences using 200 grain lead semi-wadcutters with Universal Clays?

September 21, 2000, 08:18 AM	#4
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	I do, but ultimate best 200g LSWC results still are with W231. Universal Clays is very very good.... ------------------ "All my ammo is factory ammo"

September 21, 2000, 10:23 AM	#5
rinoray Member Join Date: March 11, 2000 Posts: 71	Son. Yes, I have some loaded from last week. 200gr LSWC 5.8gr U/C 1.250 OAL Starline cases - Win LPP Good recoil control and are pretty accurate, more the gun than me. Off of rest 2-3" group, nice round holes - no keyholes @ 50'. Enjoy!

September 21, 2000, 10:33 AM	#6
ArmySon Staff Alumnus Join Date: April 14, 2000 Posts: 2,926	rinoray Did you chrono that load at all? If so, what's the velocity? With a 200 grain lswc with that load, I'm guessing around 775-800 fps? Anything over 850 fps and I start getting lead residue in my barrel.

September 21, 2000, 10:39 AM	#7
rinoray Member Join Date: March 11, 2000 Posts: 71	Sorry, Our clubs chrono was shot and is in disrepair. I can only guess (not very scientific), but, would put them at around 790-800 - that's what they chronograph indicated on previous similar loads. Haven't noticed any lead build up in barrel, unless I'm using soft bullets. Are your hard cast?

September 21, 2000, 11:31 AM	#8
ArmySon Staff Alumnus Join Date: April 14, 2000 Posts: 2,926	Yes they are hard cast but when I practice, I do a lot of defensive shooting. Meaning, lots of double taps and emptying the mag really fast. When I'm shooting for accuracy, it's not a problem.

September 21, 2000, 01:49 PM	#9
rinoray Member Join Date: March 11, 2000 Posts: 71	Son. I always use my FMJ bullets for defense. I would recommend starting 0.5 gr down around 5.3 and see what you get. For double taps maybe a good baseline.