Big bad 10mm gelatin test

Andrew Wiggin · September 7, 2014, 01:31 AM

10mm Hornady 175 gr Flex Lock video

10mm Hornady 175 gr Flex Lock fired from 4.5" barrel EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated 10% gelatin.

BB: 591.8 fps, 3.5"

Impact velocity: 1,153 fps
Penetration: 13.0"
Retained weight: 175.1 gr
Max expansion: 0.695"
Min expansion: 0.545"

So, like a moran I forgot that I had already tested this load but since I tested it again, I might as well publish the results. Unsurprisingly, the numbers are nearly identical to the first test.

10mm PBR 155 gr Montana Gold JHP test video

10mm PBR 155 gr Montana Gold JHP fired from 4.5" barrel EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated 10% gelatin

BB: 591.8 fps, 3.8"

Impact velocity: 1,405 fps
Penetration: 12.4"
Retained weight: 146.6 gr
Max expansion: 0.791"
Min expansion: 0.642"

10mm Prograde 125 gr TAC XP test video

10mm Prograde 125 gr TAC XP fired from 4.5" barrel EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated 10% gelatin

BB: 591.8 fps, 3.5"

Impact velocity: 1,472 fps
Penetration: 13.4"
Retained weight: 124.9 gr
Max expansion: 0.498"
Min expansion: 0.657"

10mm Prograde 140 gr TAC XP test video

10mm Prograde 140 gr TAC XP fired from 4.5" barrel EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated 10% gelatin

BB: 591.8 fps, 3.5"

Impact velocity: 1,216 fps
Penetration: 12.9"
Retained weight: 140.1 gr
Max expansion: 0.768"
Min expansion: 0.493"

10mm Underwood 135 gr Sierra JHP test video

10mm Underwood 135 gr Sierra JHP fired from 4.5" barrel EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated 10% gelatin

BB: 591.8 fps, 3.5"

Impact velocity: 1,449 fps
Penetration: 9.1"
Retained weight: 96.4 gr
Max expansion: 0.790"
Min expansion: 0.615"

lyodbraun · September 8, 2014, 06:31 PM

Very nice test..

JERRYS. · September 8, 2014, 08:59 PM

I love the 10mm.

savagest · September 8, 2014, 11:47 PM

Damn

2003flht · September 10, 2014, 03:56 PM

id love to see what a 200gr hard cast lead does for penetration!

Andrew Wiggin · September 10, 2014, 06:51 PM

I tested Underwood 220 gr hard cast (on my channel, if you're interested) but it yawed hard and left the block at about the 20" mark. I'll probably retest it some day with larger blocks but I'm sure it had plenty of steam left. I'll bet that load can get to 30".

KyJim · September 11, 2014, 07:36 AM

I was pleasantly surprised to see the results using the Montana Gold bullet. Previous results I had seen several years ago in a different caliber were not impressive at all. Thanks for the reviews.

Skans · September 11, 2014, 07:45 AM

10mm Rules!!!

Mystro · September 11, 2014, 10:54 AM

Meh... That's about exactly what the 165FTX 40S&W Critical Defense is in power and performance (506ftlbs, 15" of penitration with .72 expansion). Very controllable, low muzzle flash and excelent penetration.
This is a big reason why I carry a 40S&W more and leave the 10mm for realoads and woods use. I won't carry reloads for self defence but hunt with them often.

Bart Noir · September 11, 2014, 01:52 PM

For that Prograde bullet, how can the maximum expansion be smaller than the minimum expansion?

I suspect the numbers were reversed.

Bart Noir

Andrew Wiggin · September 11, 2014, 04:25 PM

That's correct. Typo.

10mm4ever · September 12, 2014, 04:56 PM

I'd like to see some 10mm vs 45 super....

Stevie-Ray · September 12, 2014, 05:07 PM

Nice job, Andrew.

Andrew Wiggin · September 12, 2014, 05:46 PM

Quote:

I'd like to see some 10mm vs 45 super.

I'd love to HAVE a .45 super.

Andrew Wiggin · September 12, 2014, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Nice job, Andrew.

Thank you, sir. It's my pleasure.

kcub · September 13, 2014, 08:29 AM

Carrying a Wilson Combat 10 loaded with Hornady 180 xtp because that delivers one hole accuracy. Just finished steak & eggs at cafe java on the way to the range. Life is good.

September 7, 2014, 01:31 AM	#1
Andrew Wiggin Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2012 Posts: 516	Big bad 10mm gelatin test 10mm Hornady 175 gr Flex Lock video 10mm Hornady 175 gr Flex Lock fired from 4.5" barrel EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated 10% gelatin. BB: 591.8 fps, 3.5" Impact velocity: 1,153 fps Penetration: 13.0" Retained weight: 175.1 gr Max expansion: 0.695" Min expansion: 0.545" So, like a moran I forgot that I had already tested this load but since I tested it again, I might as well publish the results. Unsurprisingly, the numbers are nearly identical to the first test. 10mm PBR 155 gr Montana Gold JHP test video 10mm PBR 155 gr Montana Gold JHP fired from 4.5" barrel EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated 10% gelatin BB: 591.8 fps, 3.8" Impact velocity: 1,405 fps Penetration: 12.4" Retained weight: 146.6 gr Max expansion: 0.791" Min expansion: 0.642" 10mm Prograde 125 gr TAC XP test video 10mm Prograde 125 gr TAC XP fired from 4.5" barrel EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated 10% gelatin BB: 591.8 fps, 3.5" Impact velocity: 1,472 fps Penetration: 13.4" Retained weight: 124.9 gr Max expansion: 0.498" Min expansion: 0.657" 10mm Prograde 140 gr TAC XP test video 10mm Prograde 140 gr TAC XP fired from 4.5" barrel EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated 10% gelatin BB: 591.8 fps, 3.5" Impact velocity: 1,216 fps Penetration: 12.9" Retained weight: 140.1 gr Max expansion: 0.768" Min expansion: 0.493" 10mm Underwood 135 gr Sierra JHP test video 10mm Underwood 135 gr Sierra JHP fired from 4.5" barrel EAA Witness through four layers of denim into calibrated 10% gelatin BB: 591.8 fps, 3.5" Impact velocity: 1,449 fps Penetration: 9.1" Retained weight: 96.4 gr Max expansion: 0.790" Min expansion: 0.615"

September 10, 2014, 03:56 PM	#5
2003flht Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 199	id love to see what a 200gr hard cast lead does for penetration! __________________ "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming...Wow! What a ride!" Give a Liberal a fish, he'll ask for seconds. Teach a Liberal to fish, he'll sign up for unemployment...

September 11, 2014, 10:54 AM	#9
Mystro Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2004 Location: Central Pa. Posts: 1,528	Meh... That's about exactly what the 165FTX 40S&W Critical Defense is in power and performance (506ftlbs, 15" of penitration with .72 expansion). Very controllable, low muzzle flash and excelent penetration. This is a big reason why I carry a 40S&W more and leave the 10mm for realoads and woods use. I won't carry reloads for self defence but hunt with them often. __________________ "I'm a good guy with a gun" What do I care if I give up some freedom or rights?....The Goverment will take care of me. This kind of thinking is now in the majority and it should concern you. "Ask not what you can do for your country, but what free entitlements you can bleed from your country" Last edited by Mystro; September 11, 2014 at 11:04 AM.

September 11, 2014, 01:52 PM	#10
Bart Noir Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2000 Location: Puget Sound, USA Posts: 2,215	Numbers got reversed? For that Prograde bullet, how can the maximum expansion be smaller than the minimum expansion? I suspect the numbers were reversed. Bart Noir __________________ Be of good cheer and mindful of your gun muzzle!

September 12, 2014, 05:07 PM	#13
Stevie-Ray Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: The shores of Lake Huron Posts: 4,783	Nice job, Andrew. __________________ Stevie-Ray Join the NRA/ILA I am the weapon; my gun is a tool. It's regrettable that with some people those descriptors are reversed.

September 8, 2014, 06:31 PM	#2
lyodbraun Member Join Date: January 4, 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 90	Very nice test..

September 8, 2014, 08:59 PM	#3
JERRYS. Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,968	I love the 10mm.

September 8, 2014, 11:47 PM	#4
savagest Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2013 Posts: 110	Damn

September 10, 2014, 06:51 PM	#6
Andrew Wiggin Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2012 Posts: 516	I tested Underwood 220 gr hard cast (on my channel, if you're interested) but it yawed hard and left the block at about the 20" mark. I'll probably retest it some day with larger blocks but I'm sure it had plenty of steam left. I'll bet that load can get to 30".

September 11, 2014, 07:36 AM	#7
KyJim Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2005 Location: The Bluegrass Posts: 9,142	I was pleasantly surprised to see the results using the Montana Gold bullet. Previous results I had seen several years ago in a different caliber were not impressive at all. Thanks for the reviews.

September 11, 2014, 07:45 AM	#8
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	10mm Rules!!!

September 11, 2014, 04:25 PM	#11
Andrew Wiggin Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 2012 Posts: 516	That's correct. Typo.

September 12, 2014, 04:56 PM	#12
10mm4ever Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2005 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 808	I'd like to see some 10mm vs 45 super....

September 13, 2014, 08:29 AM	#16
kcub Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2010 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 3,318	Carrying a Wilson Combat 10 loaded with Hornady 180 xtp because that delivers one hole accuracy. Just finished steak & eggs at cafe java on the way to the range. Life is good.