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July 18, 2008, 05:05 PM | #1 |
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knight muzzle loader (mis-fires)
My friend just got a new knight in 50 cal. sometimes it fires and sometimes not, primers seem ok, weapon cleaned well, when it does fire there is quite a lapse in time after the primer goes off and the rifle itself fires. Anyone have any ideas
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July 18, 2008, 06:53 PM | #2 |
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wildwood what kind is it? inline, sidelock, rollingblock, ect. My first guess would be grease in the breechplug, or nipple. or even bad powder, moist or wet, or even bad primers. most hang fires are from dirty guns or wet powder. this is just a wild guess for now, till we can get a little more info. did he clean it good first, how many shots till the misfires and hangfires?
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July 19, 2008, 06:57 AM | #3 |
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knight muzzle loader (mis fires)
this is and inline rifle and was cleaned and breach plug pulled and cleaned also, I'm thinking maybe the powder is at fault, will do some more shooting with it this weekend and see if we can't nail it down.,
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July 19, 2008, 09:02 AM | #4 |
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What kind of powder?
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July 19, 2008, 10:32 AM | #5 |
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Hang-Fires and Mis-Fires are rare for in-lines, especially when you are using a 209 primer. Prior to loading and shooting, run a damp swab or patch using denatured alcohol. Leave your patched rod in place at the bottom of the bore, Pop a cap. Pull your rod and check the crud on the patch. If you see a lot of "Mud", repeat the process till the patch looks fairly dry. Now Load and see how you do. So much depends on what you are shooting; PRB, Mini's, Sabots ?? 209, #11 or musket. FFFG or FFg ??? 777, Pyrodex or BP. I too might suspect too much breech plug grease and your patch will reveil that ..
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July 20, 2008, 09:31 AM | #6 |
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knight muzzle loader
we are using Hodgon Triple 7, in this rifle and everything has been cleaned well. Just can't understand the hang fires and mis fires. Powder is new also.
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July 20, 2008, 04:53 PM | #7 |
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777 is sensitive to compression, and in general, the more you compress it, the harder it is to ignite. My suggestion would be to load with just barely enough compression to ensure that the ball is seated on the powder and no more.
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July 20, 2008, 08:38 PM | #8 |
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Try a different powder.
Black powder, Pyrodex, or spend some cash and get Blackhorn 209. |
July 21, 2008, 08:02 AM | #9 |
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knight muzzle loader
Thanks for the thought on 777 compression, that may well be it, as we both like to make sure things are tamped in tight. will try just seating things a little less harder, you all have been a wealth of information and i appreciate that.
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