Otis "Life Liner" Nano Ceramic Bore Liner - Page 3

p99guy · July 11, 2008, 02:24 PM

Chris,I just purchased some off your ebay listing to give a try. Enjoyed the Southern woods and Water interview. Wanted to say Howdy.

NanoLube · July 15, 2008, 07:17 AM

Thank you P99guy. The most amazing thing about NanoLube TM is, how long it lasts. It is very hard to wear out a diamond finish, and the only way to remove it is to grind off the surface layer.

Gears, like in rolling mills, transmissions and industrial equipment love NanoLube too.

NanoLube · July 20, 2008, 08:21 AM

Ceramics particles will retain the heat inside your barrel and keep it from dissipating into the metal - cooking your rounds. Ceramics suffer from thermal expansion and stress fractures, and embedded particles will swell - causing a cavity that releases the particle upon cooling, making the inside of your barrel look like the surface of the moon. Those crater rims will be case hardened and razor sharp, loads of fun and only $80 per barrel treatment!!!

Inventor81 · February 20, 2009, 01:43 AM

The problem with the diamond particles in a hot impinging gas stream is this:

If you toss your wife's engagement ring in a fire, the gold won't melt, but the diamond will catch fire within moments and go up in a bright blue-white flash.

Diamond anything on combustion driven anythings are worthless.

The nano ceramic stuff sounds good, but I'd go with an actual CVD film of TiN or AlCrN like what is used on end mills and the like.

Also, if the diamond doesn't catch fire, it'll simply diffuse into the steel after a few hundred rounds - carbon is very soluble in iron, and that solubility is dependent upon temperature and surface area - a .1nm particle has quite a bit more surface area compared to its volume than a 4nm particle, and orders of magnitude more surface area per gram than anything you CAN see.

For the record, I'm blacksmith, and trained in materials science.

Complete_loser · November 12, 2010, 02:55 AM

I have read this whole thread, and the Nanolube results thread but didnt see the answer to my question.

What is the application method for using this Nanolube in a rifle bore?
Thanks

davlandrum · November 12, 2010, 12:43 PM

uuummm - you realize the post prior to yours was 18 months ago, right?

LinuxHack3r · November 12, 2010, 01:16 PM

Well, this thead was brought to the top, and thus my attention. It seems we never actually saw anyone's "reviews". Basically, I just really really really wanted to hear the results

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warbirdlover · November 12, 2010, 04:23 PM

Can diamonds catch fire?

No, not unless you can produce a fire that burns at 3820 degrees Kelvin, or 6416.6F or 3547C, at which point the stone would simply melt.

And for the record I'm a retired design engineering metallurgist for a large transmission company.

thesheepdog · November 12, 2010, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Can diamonds catch fire?

No, not unless you can produce a fire that burns at 3820 degrees Kelvin, or 6416.6F or 3547C

Yep. That's true. That's why welders use carbon-layered clothing/blankets; it doesn't burn!

tulsamal · November 12, 2010, 09:09 PM

Quote:

It seems we never actually saw anyone's "reviews". Basically, I just really really really wanted to hear the results

Yeah, I'm in the same boat. All those samples went out but nobody ever said anything. At least not in this thread?!

Gregg

warbirdlover · November 12, 2010, 09:36 PM

It should work. I'm going to try it.

swsurgeon · November 12, 2010, 10:32 PM

I just searched the Otis site for "life liner" and got "no results found". They may not offer it currently.

warbirdlover · November 12, 2010, 11:37 PM

http://diamondlubricants.com/

This is it, right?

sc928porsche · November 13, 2010, 07:05 PM

No thanks, I dont want to be putting glass, metal, or like substances down my rifle bore. Nor do I use moly lubes on high speed bearings.

TXGunNut · November 13, 2010, 09:21 PM

Results thread is linked from post 49. Entertaining but not very informative.

NanoLube · January 8, 2011, 08:41 PM

FYI, Breakfree CLP is a wonderful product, and NanoLube, Inc has signed an OEM agreement with BAE Systems, and CLP with Nano Diamond is under testing at Picatinni Arsenal for MIL-PRF-63460E as the new standard in CLP. Stainless on Stainless no longer galls, but it does cycle faster - and Sam Fadala can attest to the merits of NanoLube Inc treatments. BTW, Sam has written over 4000 articles in gun magazines and associated publications - and has given me permission to have people email him for his opinion of this new - Diamond lubricant.

Cheis Arnold
NanoLube, Inc.

PS: See Overdrive magazine for our ads claiming 21-35% increase in fuel efficiency or see www.diamondlube.com and www.quickenlube.com

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Posts: 798 I love their cleaning kit, but I don't buy into that nanolube either. As for military, CLP is still used, but so is Militec as a lube, and Otis kits are floating around, not for everyone though. That's where I first got introduced to it, was in the sandbox, though I didn't use it there.
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silvrjeepr · January 9, 2011, 01:27 AM

Show me a three ball wear test from a third party and I'll revise my belief that this is over hyped cutting oil.

NanoLube · January 9, 2011, 10:07 PM

The last 4 ball wear test performed in our Mil Spec testing program had a .51mm score pattern. All test data will be published on our web site AFTER completion of testing, and issue of the Mil Spec.

You can always ask an expert like Dr. Sam Fadala, who actually uses our nanolubrication products, or call Don at Suburban Sporting Goods in Melrose Park Illinois - or the guys at Rock River Outfitters in IL. who just stocked up on our original NanoLube™ today. The international tool company Grobet also distributes our product.

Many people are switching because of galling and jamming issues - which my products resolve within minutes, and sometings only seconds.

Chris

Wildalaska · January 9, 2011, 10:25 PM

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You can always ask an expert like Dr. Sam Fadala, who actually uses our nanolubrication products, or call Don at Suburban Sporting Goods in Melrose Park Illinois - or the guys at Rock River Outfitters in IL. who just stocked up on our original NanoLube™ today

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"Dr" Fadala?

And gee, some gunshops are buying it too? wow. We just give folks tablespoons of grease in plastic bags....for nothing...

O yeah we sell Rem Oil and Action Wax too

Fat White Boy · January 9, 2011, 10:34 PM

"I will ship out free of charge, one sample to ten, and only ten members - beginning with the guys that posted their disbelief."

But Wait! If you respond in the next 15 seconds, we will send you not one but 2 bottles of magic elixir. All you need to pay is the Shipping and Handling of $19.95!!

Dobe · January 10, 2011, 08:11 AM

I have no idea if this stuff works or not, but one thing is for sure. If this product does work as told, Someone will resurrect this post simply to show those who were quick to berate.

Give the man a chance, before you are so quick to criticize. This may just be a sound product.

LinuxHack3r · January 10, 2011, 09:16 AM

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We just give folks tablespoons of grease in plastic bags....for nothing...

Hm...........if this is bacon grease or the like....I was thinking of slow cooking.....ah never mind:|

Art Eatman · January 10, 2011, 10:49 AM

Enough useless backing and forthing...

July 11, 2008, 02:24 PM	#51
p99guy Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2004 Location: Haslet,Texas(DFW area) Posts: 1,506	Chris,I just purchased some off your ebay listing to give a try. Enjoyed the Southern woods and Water interview. Wanted to say Howdy. __________________ Lighten up Francis!.....;Actor Warren Oats, in the movie "Stripes"

July 20, 2008, 08:21 AM	#53
NanoLube Member Join Date: March 15, 2008 Posts: 53	Warning about ceramics Ceramics particles will retain the heat inside your barrel and keep it from dissipating into the metal - cooking your rounds. Ceramics suffer from thermal expansion and stress fractures, and embedded particles will swell - causing a cavity that releases the particle upon cooling, making the inside of your barrel look like the surface of the moon. Those crater rims will be case hardened and razor sharp, loads of fun and only $80 per barrel treatment!!!

February 20, 2009, 01:43 AM	#54
Inventor81 Junior Member Join Date: February 1, 2009 Posts: 4	Diamond is combustible The problem with the diamond particles in a hot impinging gas stream is this: If you toss your wife's engagement ring in a fire, the gold won't melt, but the diamond will catch fire within moments and go up in a bright blue-white flash. Diamond anything on combustion driven anythings are worthless. The nano ceramic stuff sounds good, but I'd go with an actual CVD film of TiN or AlCrN like what is used on end mills and the like. Also, if the diamond doesn't catch fire, it'll simply diffuse into the steel after a few hundred rounds - carbon is very soluble in iron, and that solubility is dependent upon temperature and surface area - a .1nm particle has quite a bit more surface area compared to its volume than a 4nm particle, and orders of magnitude more surface area per gram than anything you CAN see. For the record, I'm blacksmith, and trained in materials science.

November 12, 2010, 12:43 PM	#56
davlandrum Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2006 Location: Lane County Oregon Posts: 2,547	uuummm - you realize the post prior to yours was 18 months ago, right? __________________ U.S Army, Retired Ethics is knowing the difference between what you have a right to do and what is right to do. -Potter Stewart

November 12, 2010, 01:16 PM	#57
LinuxHack3r Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2010 Posts: 282	Well, this thead was brought to the top, and thus my attention. It seems we never actually saw anyone's "reviews". Basically, I just really really really wanted to hear the results Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum

July 15, 2008, 07:17 AM	#52
NanoLube Member Join Date: March 15, 2008 Posts: 53	Thank you P99guy. The most amazing thing about NanoLube TM is, how long it lasts. It is very hard to wear out a diamond finish, and the only way to remove it is to grind off the surface layer. Gears, like in rolling mills, transmissions and industrial equipment love NanoLube too.

November 12, 2010, 02:55 AM	#55
Complete_loser Junior Member Join Date: November 12, 2010 Posts: 1	I have read this whole thread, and the Nanolube results thread but didnt see the answer to my question. What is the application method for using this Nanolube in a rifle bore? Thanks

November 12, 2010, 04:23 PM	#58
warbirdlover Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2009 Location: central Wisconsin Posts: 2,324	Can diamonds catch fire? No, not unless you can produce a fire that burns at 3820 degrees Kelvin, or 6416.6F or 3547C, at which point the stone would simply melt. And for the record I'm a retired design engineering metallurgist for a large transmission company.

November 12, 2010, 09:36 PM	#61
warbirdlover Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2009 Location: central Wisconsin Posts: 2,324	It should work. I'm going to try it.

November 12, 2010, 10:32 PM	#62
swsurgeon Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2001 Location: Smith Valley, Nevada Posts: 179	I just searched the Otis site for "life liner" and got "no results found". They may not offer it currently.

November 12, 2010, 11:37 PM	#63
warbirdlover Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2009 Location: central Wisconsin Posts: 2,324	http://diamondlubricants.com/ This is it, right?

November 13, 2010, 07:05 PM	#64
sc928porsche Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2008 Location: now living in alabama Posts: 2,433	No thanks, I dont want to be putting glass, metal, or like substances down my rifle bore. Nor do I use moly lubes on high speed bearings. __________________ No such thing as a stupid question. What is stupid is not asking it.

November 13, 2010, 09:21 PM	#65
TXGunNut Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: If you have to ask... Posts: 2,860	Results thread is linked from post 49. Entertaining but not very informative. __________________ Life Member NRA, TSRA Smokeless powder is a passing fad! -Steve Garbe I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it. -Woodrow F. Call Lonesome Dove My favorite recipes start out with a handful of used wheelweights.

January 8, 2011, 08:41 PM	#66
NanoLube Member Join Date: March 15, 2008 Posts: 53	BAE Systems and NanoLube, Inc. FYI, Breakfree CLP is a wonderful product, and NanoLube, Inc has signed an OEM agreement with BAE Systems, and CLP with Nano Diamond is under testing at Picatinni Arsenal for MIL-PRF-63460E as the new standard in CLP. Stainless on Stainless no longer galls, but it does cycle faster - and Sam Fadala can attest to the merits of NanoLube Inc treatments. BTW, Sam has written over 4000 articles in gun magazines and associated publications - and has given me permission to have people email him for his opinion of this new - Diamond lubricant. Cheis Arnold NanoLube, Inc. PS: See Overdrive magazine for our ads claiming 21-35% increase in fuel efficiency or see www.diamondlube.com and www.quickenlube.com #6 CGSteve8718 Senior Member Join Date: May 14, 2007 Posts: 798 I love their cleaning kit, but I don't buy into that nanolube either. As for military, CLP is still used, but so is Militec as a lube, and Otis kits are floating around, not for everyone though. That's where I first got introduced to it, was in the sandbox, though I didn't use it there. __________________ "You are fighting for what you can never obtain, and we defending what we mean never to part with." Thomas Paine

January 9, 2011, 01:27 AM	#67
silvrjeepr Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2009 Posts: 213	Show me a three ball wear test from a third party and I'll revise my belief that this is over hyped cutting oil.

January 9, 2011, 10:07 PM	#68
NanoLube Member Join Date: March 15, 2008 Posts: 53	The last 4 ball wear test performed in our Mil Spec testing program had a .51mm score pattern. All test data will be published on our web site AFTER completion of testing, and issue of the Mil Spec. You can always ask an expert like Dr. Sam Fadala, who actually uses our nanolubrication products, or call Don at Suburban Sporting Goods in Melrose Park Illinois - or the guys at Rock River Outfitters in IL. who just stocked up on our original NanoLube™ today. The international tool company Grobet also distributes our product. Many people are switching because of galling and jamming issues - which my products resolve within minutes, and sometings only seconds. Chris

January 9, 2011, 10:34 PM	#70
Fat White Boy Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2005 Posts: 1,276	"I will ship out free of charge, one sample to ten, and only ten members - beginning with the guys that posted their disbelief." But Wait! If you respond in the next 15 seconds, we will send you not one but 2 bottles of magic elixir. All you need to pay is the Shipping and Handling of $19.95!!

January 10, 2011, 08:11 AM	#71
Dobe Senior Member Join Date: June 28, 2004 Posts: 1,348	I have no idea if this stuff works or not, but one thing is for sure. If this product does work as told, Someone will resurrect this post simply to show those who were quick to berate. Give the man a chance, before you are so quick to criticize. This may just be a sound product. __________________ What America needs is not a good 5 cent cigar. What America needs is a good source of cheap ammunition.

January 10, 2011, 10:49 AM	#73
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	Enough useless backing and forthing...