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March 24, 2008, 12:28 AM | #1 |
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Okay don't laugh yet, suppressed shotgun
So I saw the movie "No Country for Old Men" and a main character uses an autoloading shotgun with a enormous can on it shooting buckshot throughout the movie. Now I know it's been tried, but please remind me that there is no friggin' way this works, or works well at least.
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March 24, 2008, 12:45 AM | #2 |
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It can and is being done... and they are quite common in Europe.
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March 24, 2008, 10:41 AM | #3 |
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March 24, 2008, 02:23 PM | #4 |
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I think it would be really cool to do it, but i don't know if it is possible or not.
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March 24, 2008, 03:57 PM | #5 |
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Yes, definitely possible, and available; I've fired a Hushpower single-shot, and it was an interesting experience; the expansion chamber ran basically the whole length of the barrel, so there were 1/4" ports the whole way, with threaded discs for mounting the outer tube welded onto the barrel (you could unscrew the outer tube for cleaning/maintenance). There were a couple of odd things about this set-up; one, it had a weird sort of "thump-riiiinnnnng" sound when it was fired, because the outer tube acted like a bell when the pressure hit it. Two, there was enough residual pressure inside the expansion chamber that it tried to fold the pie-crimp on the shells back in, at least 3/4s of the way.
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March 24, 2008, 04:41 PM | #6 |
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I stand corrected. The one in the movie was short and stubby, like a Family size can of soup or a coffee mug only taller. The barrel was cut off at the magazine. He didn't mention if he had the proper permits........
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March 24, 2008, 08:22 PM | #7 |
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It Is Possible.
How the shotgun suppressors work is by extending/porting or porting the existing barrel, and attaching a reflex-type suppressor to the end. Basically the baffels are placed OVER the ports as to keep the buck/bird shot out of them and to allow the use of chokes. They work, but they are not the most effective out there. Most people dont even bother. No Country For Old Men, the fact he's using is suppressor is a reality, the sound it made is BOGUS.
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March 25, 2008, 12:59 PM | #8 |
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Just a thought, maybe they would be more effective with a slug? or is it the suppressor design itself?
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March 25, 2008, 02:31 PM | #9 |
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They tend to be fairly effective "as-is", as a shotgun is a lower-pressure firearm to begin with, and the wad does a good job of eliminating any "blow-by". They could be more effective with a multi-chamber design, but they're already fairly large and heavy as it is.
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March 28, 2008, 09:47 PM | #10 |
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Cool, never thought it was possible other than that single giant flechette in a sabot load I read about somewhere.
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Umm wasn't the shotgun used in the movie really a "bolt gun" that's used to kill cattle for slaughter?
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March 29, 2008, 07:14 AM | #12 |
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No, the "bolt gun" was operated by compressed air; he also used a pump-action shotgun (looked like a Mossberg to me, but you never get a really good look at it) fitted with a large-diameter suppressor that has too little volume to be really effective, as well as a Tec-9.
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The silenced shotgun he uses is a completely different item, as seen below:
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Who cuts his hair, Prince Valiant? He looks like an Oompa Loompa!
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April 3, 2008, 10:28 PM | #17 |
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I think he has a little "Chigurh" in his gas tank.
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April 3, 2008, 10:32 PM | #18 |
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Just remember when he asks where you live....DONT TELL!! And please call the coin!
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I am curious, how he shot any shotgun rounds thru that little hole? Oh yeah its a MOVIE.
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April 19, 2008, 09:13 AM | #20 |
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Ever actually seen & listened to one of these:
The Quiet Shotgun Some guys shoot these things in Sporting Clays at my local club. The first time I witnessed this I thought they were joking around - not. The sound is so light it's incredible - as stated, it sounds more like a pellet gun...
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Good GOD!!! WHAT THE HELL IS THAT THING??? A Martian Anal Probe??? A "Quiet Shotun".. and the guy's wasted the few grand it takes and applied for a Patent? WOW!!!
I would be afraid to take that thing hunting... I'd get a laughed at.. How in bloody hell does he transport it? It wont fit in a truck cab nor in most cars.. the friggin think is too long... I hope it breaks down... pointless...just pointless..... BTW The air-ram device used in the movie, is not considered a pistol nor is it regulated by any other authority than possibly the Food and Drug Administration or the Department of Agriculture... maybe... Its a pneumatic hammer... thats it... nothing more to it than that.
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Hastings shotgun barrels also makes or made an extension similar to that Diller fellow's barrel; with these, the entire barrel acts as an expansion chamber, so that by the time the wad gets to the end of the barrel, you don't have any more high-pressure gas to cool down or route through a suppressor.
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May 2, 2008, 01:55 PM | #23 |
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I've seen these extensions. Cabela's carries them, or used to. $100 from memory.
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May 4, 2008, 12:39 PM | #24 |
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Not all shotguns are 12 gauges...
A 20 or 28 cut down could be highly effective, without beating the shooter to pieces at the same time.
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Suppressed shotgun
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