American Pionneer Powder

michael t · September 28, 2009, 07:28 AM

BP impossible to find in my Area I bought a can of this. Any one ever use I fired in my flint and it shot fine and was easy to clean up Unlike that foul smelling P stuff .

sundance44s · September 28, 2009, 09:10 AM

Yep it smells like cotton candy burning ...sugar base .
I`m supprised it worked well in a flinter ..I wouldn`t think it would .
I use it some times in B/P cartridges ....works well in them too ...easy clean up ...almost like smokeless .

Pahoo · September 28, 2009, 09:33 AM

Is it labled American Pioneer or Shokey Gold? Either way, it's an acceptable alternative to BP and Pyrodex. Currently I am using the American Pioneer in all of my traditionals. A Buck Skinner buddy of mine uses it in his rock crusher but he has it tuned quite well and the lock time is fast. However, as noted, there could be ignition issues as it takes a hotter spark to set it off. In short, it's good stuff that has it's roots in the Black Mag products. My future concerns are for shelf life and it's effects. This is hard to measure and will have to keep an eye one it.

Be Safe !!!

sundance44s · September 28, 2009, 09:48 AM

I agree shelf life may be a problem ...I`ve got a jug I`ve been useing for 6 years off and on in my cartridges ...still works fine .
The 3f is easyer to measure than the 2f ....first jug I bought was 2f ...it was like measureing lime stone or cannon grade powder .

shortwave · September 28, 2009, 03:48 PM

I`ve shot AP out of various inlines with 209 ign. and musket primer ign. with no problem. Its fairly clean and doesn`t seem to leave the 'crud ring' as bad as Pyrodex. If your worried about shelf life split a container with your shooting buddy. Also when buying new powder check the date on container. Many stores rotate there powder and put the newest stuff in back of the last years stuff

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Deadguy · September 29, 2009, 06:21 PM

I had some of that, but after 6 months it wasn't any good anymore. It got very weak. But, your mileage may vary.....

September 28, 2009, 07:28 AM	#1
michael t Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2004 Location: Out back Ky Posts: 4,044	American Pionneer Powder BP impossible to find in my Area I bought a can of this. Any one ever use I fired in my flint and it shot fine and was easy to clean up Unlike that foul smelling P stuff . __________________ Certified Armed Infidel Colt Defender ,Colt Mustang ,Dan Wesson CBOB, PPK/S, American Classic 1911,Bersa Thunder 380 http://bersachat.comHome of Bersa http://www.metroarms1911forum.com

September 28, 2009, 03:48 PM	#5
shortwave Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2007 Location: SOUTHEAST, OHIO Posts: 5,970	I`ve shot AP out of various inlines with 209 ign. and musket primer ign. with no problem. Its fairly clean and doesn`t seem to leave the 'crud ring' as bad as Pyrodex. If your worried about shelf life split a container with your shooting buddy. Also when buying new powder check the date on container. Many stores rotate there powder and put the newest stuff in back of the last years stuff.

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September 28, 2009, 09:10 AM	#2
sundance44s Senior Member Join Date: February 6, 2006 Location: Hernando , Ms. Posts: 579	Yep it smells like cotton candy burning ...sugar base . I`m supprised it worked well in a flinter ..I wouldn`t think it would . I use it some times in B/P cartridges ....works well in them too ...easy clean up ...almost like smokeless .

September 28, 2009, 09:33 AM	#3
Pahoo Senior Member Join Date: February 16, 2006 Location: IOWA Posts: 8,783	Is it labled American Pioneer or Shokey Gold? Either way, it's an acceptable alternative to BP and Pyrodex. Currently I am using the American Pioneer in all of my traditionals. A Buck Skinner buddy of mine uses it in his rock crusher but he has it tuned quite well and the lock time is fast. However, as noted, there could be ignition issues as it takes a hotter spark to set it off. In short, it's good stuff that has it's roots in the Black Mag products. My future concerns are for shelf life and it's effects. This is hard to measure and will have to keep an eye one it. Be Safe !!!

September 28, 2009, 09:48 AM	#4
sundance44s Senior Member Join Date: February 6, 2006 Location: Hernando , Ms. Posts: 579	I agree shelf life may be a problem ...I`ve got a jug I`ve been useing for 6 years off and on in my cartridges ...still works fine . The 3f is easyer to measure than the 2f ....first jug I bought was 2f ...it was like measureing lime stone or cannon grade powder .

September 29, 2009, 06:21 PM	#6
Deadguy Member Join Date: April 17, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 93	I had some of that, but after 6 months it wasn't any good anymore. It got very weak. But, your mileage may vary.....