Sierra matchking/gameking data please.

mohr308 · September 15, 2012, 03:04 PM

I shot some Sierra Matchking 168 grain .308 win loaded by federal today. This ammo fired extremely accurate! Does anyone have load data from the Sierra manual for that round? I would like to do my best at recreating this in Matchking and the 165 grain HPBT Gameking. Load data for these would be great. Any recommendations on powder would be nice also.

Marco Califo · September 15, 2012, 03:09 PM

Go here, scroll down, look for the Sierra Load Map.You can download the Sierra 308 section free.
http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/308win/

tobnpr · September 15, 2012, 07:10 PM

Gold Match?
No way to know the powder mixture Federal uses for this, probably as closely kept a secret as Col. Sanders recipe...

All you might be able to gather at this point, is that your rifle seems to like the 168 SMK, which is the case with many .308's (oddly enough, my son's Savage doesn't, but really shoots the 175's).

Many .308 shooters (us included) use Varget for this round...

Marco Califo · September 15, 2012, 07:23 PM

tobnpr, You seem to have "read" something different than OP wrote:

Quote:

Gold Match?
No way to know the powder mixture Federal uses for this, probably as closely kept a secret as Col. Sanders recipe...

Gold Match??? What? OP was specifically asking for Sierra's load data for SMK's and SGK.

Quote:

All you might be able to gather at this point, is that your rifle seems to like the 168 SMK

Actually, I think OP knows exactly what to ask for, and got it.

mohr308 · September 15, 2012, 10:49 PM

Yes it was gold match, But I would like to know what sierras load manual states for its most accurate powder tested for those 2 rounds.

Marco Califo · September 15, 2012, 10:58 PM

http://www.6mmbr.citymaker.com/f/Sierra308Win.pdf

tobnpr · September 16, 2012, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Gold Match??? What? OP was specifically asking for Sierra's load data for SMK's and SGK.

No, he was asking specifically about the load Federal uses with the 168 SMK- which IS the Gold Match ammo...

Read before calling me out.

Marco Califo · September 16, 2012, 03:48 PM

No, he specifically asked for the Sierra load data for Sierra's bullets from the Sierra manual. I would suggest you reread his post.

mohr308 · September 16, 2012, 06:45 PM

yes I did follow the link! thanks

straight-shooter · September 16, 2012, 07:04 PM

I shoot a Savage 10 FCP .308 with a 22" barrel. I too liked the Federal Gold Match load and wanted to duplicate it. I first found that the velocity of this round was average at 2,600 fps. I would even go out on a limb and venture to say the 168 Sierra would like this load also.

Here is what I have chrono'd and found to be even more accurate to boot.

Winchester brass trimmed to 2.010
Winchester LR primer
168 gr Hornady Amax
41.4 gr H4895
2.810 OAL (.010 off lands)
-------------------------------------------

Chrono Data:
Grains:168 Amax

Hi Vel:2609
Low Vel:2569
Ave Vel:2584

Ext Spread:40
Std Dev:15

Velocity
2604
2569
2569
2574
2574
2574
2583
2609
2594
2599

tobnpr · September 17, 2012, 08:21 AM

The 168 SMK is not a "round", it's a bullet...
"Rounds", are loaded ammo.
'Nuff said, whatever...

Marco Califo · September 17, 2012, 08:43 AM

Apology Accepted.

Quote:

Does anyone have load data from the Sierra manual for that round? I would like to do my best at recreating this in Matchking and the 165 grain HPBT Gameking. Load data for these would be great.

Rimfire5 · September 17, 2012, 10:35 AM

mohr308

Not knowing the chamber depth of your rifle, it is difficult to give you a specific answer, but this might help.

Federal Premium factory ammo is rated at 2650 fps muzzle velocity but that is measured in a test barrel not in your rifle. Also, the factory ammo is seated out at 2.800 COAL +/- 0.004 inches from my measurements.
That said, you need to use that velocity data and COAL as variables when you try to duplicate the results with the factory ammo.

I have bettered Federal Gold Match SMK ammo results with either Reloader 15 or H4895 powders with the 168 Sierra Match King bullet, using about 5 different kinds of brass (head stamps not varied for any particular experiment) & Federal 410M match primers.

If you load from the Sierra manual in 25 fps increments from 2625 fps to 2675 fps and vary the COAL from 2.800 to 2.815 in 0.005 increments, I think you should find a very accurate load for your particular rifle that will better the factory ammo.

Using the same powders, I have gotten equal results with Nosler Custom Competition bulltet seated about 0.010 than the best loads with the Sierra SMKs.

September 15, 2012, 03:04 PM	#1
mohr308 Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2012 Location: Western New York Posts: 466	Sierra matchking/gameking data please. I shot some Sierra Matchking 168 grain .308 win loaded by federal today. This ammo fired extremely accurate! Does anyone have load data from the Sierra manual for that round? I would like to do my best at recreating this in Matchking and the 165 grain HPBT Gameking. Load data for these would be great. Any recommendations on powder would be nice also. __________________ Lock and load, the zombies (democrats) are coming (to take your guns)!

September 15, 2012, 03:09 PM	#2
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area) Posts: 2,598	Go here, scroll down, look for the Sierra Load Map.You can download the Sierra 308 section free. http://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/308win/ __________________ ............

September 15, 2012, 10:49 PM	#5
mohr308 Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2012 Location: Western New York Posts: 466	Yes it was gold match, But I would like to know what sierras load manual states for its most accurate powder tested for those 2 rounds. __________________ Lock and load, the zombies (democrats) are coming (to take your guns)!

September 15, 2012, 10:58 PM	#6
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area) Posts: 2,598	Did you try to follow the link? http://www.6mmbr.citymaker.com/f/Sierra308Win.pdf __________________ ............

September 16, 2012, 03:48 PM	#8
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area) Posts: 2,598	No, he specifically asked for the Sierra load data for Sierra's bullets from the Sierra manual. I would suggest you reread his post. __________________ ............

September 15, 2012, 07:10 PM	#3
tobnpr Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2010 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 4,556	Gold Match? No way to know the powder mixture Federal uses for this, probably as closely kept a secret as Col. Sanders recipe... All you might be able to gather at this point, is that your rifle seems to like the 168 SMK, which is the case with many .308's (oddly enough, my son's Savage doesn't, but really shoots the 175's). Many .308 shooters (us included) use Varget for this round...

September 16, 2012, 06:45 PM	#9
mohr308 Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2012 Location: Western New York Posts: 466	yes I did follow the link! thanks __________________ Lock and load, the zombies (democrats) are coming (to take your guns)!

September 16, 2012, 07:04 PM	#10
straight-shooter Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2007 Location: North Central Indiana Posts: 436	I shoot a Savage 10 FCP .308 with a 22" barrel. I too liked the Federal Gold Match load and wanted to duplicate it. I first found that the velocity of this round was average at 2,600 fps. I would even go out on a limb and venture to say the 168 Sierra would like this load also. Here is what I have chrono'd and found to be even more accurate to boot. Winchester brass trimmed to 2.010 Winchester LR primer 168 gr Hornady Amax 41.4 gr H4895 2.810 OAL (.010 off lands) ------------------------------------------- Chrono Data: Grains:168 Amax Hi Vel:2609 Low Vel:2569 Ave Vel:2584 Ext Spread:40 Std Dev:15 Velocity 2604 2569 2569 2574 2574 2574 2583 2609 2594 2599

September 17, 2012, 08:21 AM	#11
tobnpr Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2010 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 4,556	The 168 SMK is not a "round", it's a bullet... "Rounds", are loaded ammo. 'Nuff said, whatever...

September 17, 2012, 10:35 AM	#13
Rimfire5 Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 922	mohr308 Not knowing the chamber depth of your rifle, it is difficult to give you a specific answer, but this might help. Federal Premium factory ammo is rated at 2650 fps muzzle velocity but that is measured in a test barrel not in your rifle. Also, the factory ammo is seated out at 2.800 COAL +/- 0.004 inches from my measurements. That said, you need to use that velocity data and COAL as variables when you try to duplicate the results with the factory ammo. I have bettered Federal Gold Match SMK ammo results with either Reloader 15 or H4895 powders with the 168 Sierra Match King bullet, using about 5 different kinds of brass (head stamps not varied for any particular experiment) & Federal 410M match primers. If you load from the Sierra manual in 25 fps increments from 2625 fps to 2675 fps and vary the COAL from 2.800 to 2.815 in 0.005 increments, I think you should find a very accurate load for your particular rifle that will better the factory ammo. Using the same powders, I have gotten equal results with Nosler Custom Competition bulltet seated about 0.010 than the best loads with the Sierra SMKs.

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