rock river polymer 1911s

tahunua001 · February 28, 2015, 11:26 AM

so, after about 2 years of "coming soon" I see rock river arms finally has them up on their site with specs...

...and an MSRP of $1000

did I miss something here? they are asking more than a brand new springfield milspec for a 1911 with a plastic frame and mostly aluminum parts. have they gone off their rocker? Ruger 1911s are mostly stainless and wood and usually sell for $600.

AustinTX · February 28, 2015, 12:09 PM

I don't know much about their poly 1911, other than that I find the very idea to be an abomination, but Rock River makes semi-custom-quality all-steel 1911s, so I can't say I'm surprised at the price they're suggesting for the poly. Also, the MSRP that I just saw on their site was $925, not $1000, and the street price will probably end up a decent amount less than that. And what's aluminum besides the trigger?

tahunua001 · February 28, 2015, 12:16 PM

hmm, I must have misread, I thought it was $975 and being shocked I felt like rounding up.

I am not adverse to them using polymer for 1911s but for the last 2 years that they've been teasing about them, I figured they would be competitively priced with the budget brand 1911s like armscor. considering aluminum and plastic rather than straight steel like everyone else, even for a semi custom job that is not competitive pricing.

even looking at real world pricing, $700(conservative guestimate) that is not very good considering I can get a Ruger SR1911 for $625 all day long.

9x19 · February 28, 2015, 01:16 PM

I expect they'll have just as much success as Wilson and Kimber did with their poly framed "1911"s.

polyphemus · February 28, 2015, 01:19 PM

Quote:

rock river polymer 1911s

The Final Judge will declare them incompetent for reasons of dementia.

triplebike · February 28, 2015, 05:30 PM

Whole different ballgame than Armsor.

Rock River Arms, Inc. produces American made, custom built firearms, accessories, and parts. Its products include rifles, pistols, rifle kits, upper halves, barrel assemblies, upper and lower receivers, match receivers, butt stocks/pistol grips, hand guards/rail systems, and mounts/weapon sights. The company also provides logo gear and clothing. It offers its products through dealers in the United States, as well as through its online showroom. The company was formerly known as Tolerance + Inc. and changed its name to Rock River Arms, Inc. in June 1996. Rock River Arms, Inc. was founded in 1993 and is based in Colona, Illinois.

Whirlwind06 · February 28, 2015, 07:19 PM

They list the weight as 2 pounds. My stock 1911 is something like 2.5 pounds I hope that is a miss print.

Quote:

I expect they'll have just as much success as Wilson and Kimber did with their poly framed "1911"s.

Weren't those actually double stack imports from Israel?

tahunua001 · February 28, 2015, 07:35 PM

I was meaning the same price point as armscor. but while we're talking about their rifles and kits, they are very tight fitting and won't always fit other AR parts. every person I've ever met that's owned one of their AR10 style rifles has had a negative review. so really, their pricing is upper mid tier and their actual quality is lower mid tier at best.

AustinTX · February 28, 2015, 07:53 PM

Their 1911s are outstanding, though. I wish they had ignored the AR stuff and stuck to what they were doing an amazing job at. Nice to see them getting back to it.

Darker Loaf · February 28, 2015, 09:23 PM

I really like the looks of their upper end stainless 1911... but $3,000! That's a ton of money, and I could buy a fancy race gun for that money (or any number of full-custom builds). I'd love to see/handle one just to see what the fuss is about.

RickB · February 28, 2015, 09:52 PM

If they were doing the same fit and finish on the $1000 plastic guns as they do on the $3000 all-steel guns, they might be on to something.
I can't afford a $3000 anything that doesn't have an engine and four wheels, but a hand-fitted pistol for $1000 sounds interesting.

February 28, 2015, 11:26 AM	#1
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	rock river polymer 1911s so, after about 2 years of "coming soon" I see rock river arms finally has them up on their site with specs... ...and an MSRP of $1000 did I miss something here? they are asking more than a brand new springfield milspec for a 1911 with a plastic frame and mostly aluminum parts. have they gone off their rocker? Ruger 1911s are mostly stainless and wood and usually sell for $600. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

February 28, 2015, 12:09 PM	#2
AustinTX Senior Member Join Date: June 19, 2010 Posts: 2,145	I don't know much about their poly 1911, other than that I find the very idea to be an abomination, but Rock River makes semi-custom-quality all-steel 1911s, so I can't say I'm surprised at the price they're suggesting for the poly. Also, the MSRP that I just saw on their site was $925, not $1000, and the street price will probably end up a decent amount less than that. And what's aluminum besides the trigger? Last edited by AustinTX; February 28, 2015 at 12:17 PM. Reason: typo

February 28, 2015, 12:16 PM	#3
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	hmm, I must have misread, I thought it was $975 and being shocked I felt like rounding up. I am not adverse to them using polymer for 1911s but for the last 2 years that they've been teasing about them, I figured they would be competitively priced with the budget brand 1911s like armscor. considering aluminum and plastic rather than straight steel like everyone else, even for a semi custom job that is not competitive pricing. even looking at real world pricing, $700(conservative guestimate) that is not very good considering I can get a Ruger SR1911 for $625 all day long. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

February 28, 2015, 01:16 PM	#4
9x19 Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 1998 Location: Sherman, TX USA Posts: 3,750	I expect they'll have just as much success as Wilson and Kimber did with their poly framed "1911"s. __________________ Make mine lean, mean, and 9x19!

February 28, 2015, 07:35 PM	#8
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	I was meaning the same price point as armscor. but while we're talking about their rifles and kits, they are very tight fitting and won't always fit other AR parts. every person I've ever met that's owned one of their AR10 style rifles has had a negative review. so really, their pricing is upper mid tier and their actual quality is lower mid tier at best. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

February 28, 2015, 05:30 PM	#6
triplebike Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2010 Location: Eastern, Pa Posts: 301	Whole different ballgame than Armsor. Rock River Arms, Inc. produces American made, custom built firearms, accessories, and parts. Its products include rifles, pistols, rifle kits, upper halves, barrel assemblies, upper and lower receivers, match receivers, butt stocks/pistol grips, hand guards/rail systems, and mounts/weapon sights. The company also provides logo gear and clothing. It offers its products through dealers in the United States, as well as through its online showroom. The company was formerly known as Tolerance + Inc. and changed its name to Rock River Arms, Inc. in June 1996. Rock River Arms, Inc. was founded in 1993 and is based in Colona, Illinois.

February 28, 2015, 07:53 PM	#9
AustinTX Senior Member Join Date: June 19, 2010 Posts: 2,145	Their 1911s are outstanding, though. I wish they had ignored the AR stuff and stuck to what they were doing an amazing job at. Nice to see them getting back to it.

February 28, 2015, 09:23 PM	#10
Darker Loaf Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2012 Posts: 715	I really like the looks of their upper end stainless 1911... but $3,000! That's a ton of money, and I could buy a fancy race gun for that money (or any number of full-custom builds). I'd love to see/handle one just to see what the fuss is about.

February 28, 2015, 09:52 PM	#11
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,518	If they were doing the same fit and finish on the $1000 plastic guns as they do on the $3000 all-steel guns, they might be on to something. I can't afford a $3000 anything that doesn't have an engine and four wheels, but a hand-fitted pistol for $1000 sounds interesting. __________________ Runs off at the mouth about anything 1911 related on this site and half the time is flat out wrong.