Looking for a Pcc

Baroke · January 7, 2014, 03:02 PM

I'm looking to buy a Pcc soon for plinking and home defense. And I Want to know what other peoples experiences were with then and what they had. I would prefer 15+ Round count. And some where up to $800

BillyJack3 · January 7, 2014, 03:42 PM

What caliber are you thinking?

chris in va · January 7, 2014, 04:37 PM

I've looked at quite a few and the CX4 Storm is on the top of my list. At first I was drooling over the 45 but 8 round limit puts a cap on the fun so I'll be looking for a Beretta 92 version.

Another advantage is a defensive load 9mm will gain about 200fps out of that longer barrel, putting it squarely in 357mag velocities (from a revolver). I've seen data that shows 1300fps, pretty impressive.

tahunua001 · January 7, 2014, 05:02 PM

well 15+1 makes for thinning the pack a bit. the taurus, hi point, and kel tec are all out. that leaves the neutered Uzis, Sterlings(neutered stens), Neutered MP5s, Beretta CX4s, and AR15s.

depending on caliber a lot of those can be ruled out as well.

sterlings are only had in 9mm and 7.62x25
MP5s 9mm and very expensive
CX4 is available in 9mm, 40 cal, and 45ACP.
AR15 is available in 9mm, 40 cal, 45ACP, 5.7x28mm, 7.62x25(no currently made that I'm aware of)
Uzis are 9mm and not well received from what I've seen.

I personally own an AR15 in 9mm and love it. used it to get my deer this year. functions exactly like my standard caliber AR15, very accurate, decent trigger for a PCC but nothing spectacular.

kdstang · January 7, 2014, 05:25 PM

Kel tec Sub-2000 can take either the Glock 17 or 22 magazines, along with the 33-round 9mm mags or 22-round .40 mags. I assume they could also take the aftermarket 50-round glock mags, but I'm not sure. The grip can also be cut to take shorter Glock 19 or 23 mags.

9x19 · January 7, 2014, 05:57 PM

I've owned:

Kel-Tec Sub 2000 - a good gun at $279 new, over-priced today and not optics friendly.

Beretta CX4 - ran fine, not the best trigger though there are after-market parts available these days.

Ruger PC9, heavy trigger and not easily tuned. No after-market support and way over-priced today.

Marlin Camp 9 - I own a pair of these, and they are solidly built (just keep the brake cleaner type solvents away from the synthetic trigger group), there are better recoil buffers, recoil springs and stocks available. Getting pricey but Marlin built a bunch of them.

Baroke · January 7, 2014, 07:10 PM

Used 15 is a memo I'm good with anything that will except 30 round mags or more any caliber would be cool

Jim243 · January 7, 2014, 09:51 PM

Quote:

I'm good with anything that will except 30 round mags

Only one I am aware of is the Kel-Tec 9mm that uses Glock 33 round mags.

Personally 10 round mags in the pistol grip is not hard to speed load. I have one in 40 S&W that is the ugliest on the face of the earth but rocks and rolls and does a lot of damage to whatever it is shot at.

Jim

Hi-Point 4095TS 40 S&W

Current configuration

Baroke · January 7, 2014, 11:23 PM

I know there is a jr carbine that's uses glock mags, in 9,40,45 cals but I wanted to hear people's experiences first .

January 7, 2014, 03:02 PM	#1
Baroke Junior Member Join Date: January 6, 2014 Posts: 8	Looking for a Pcc I'm looking to buy a Pcc soon for plinking and home defense. And I Want to know what other peoples experiences were with then and what they had. I would prefer 15+ Round count. And some where up to $800

January 7, 2014, 05:02 PM	#4
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	well 15+1 makes for thinning the pack a bit. the taurus, hi point, and kel tec are all out. that leaves the neutered Uzis, Sterlings(neutered stens), Neutered MP5s, Beretta CX4s, and AR15s. depending on caliber a lot of those can be ruled out as well. sterlings are only had in 9mm and 7.62x25 MP5s 9mm and very expensive CX4 is available in 9mm, 40 cal, and 45ACP. AR15 is available in 9mm, 40 cal, 45ACP, 5.7x28mm, 7.62x25(no currently made that I'm aware of) Uzis are 9mm and not well received from what I've seen. I personally own an AR15 in 9mm and love it. used it to get my deer this year. functions exactly like my standard caliber AR15, very accurate, decent trigger for a PCC but nothing spectacular. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

January 7, 2014, 05:57 PM	#6
9x19 Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 1998 Location: Sherman, TX USA Posts: 3,752	I've owned: Kel-Tec Sub 2000 - a good gun at $279 new, over-priced today and not optics friendly. Beretta CX4 - ran fine, not the best trigger though there are after-market parts available these days. Ruger PC9, heavy trigger and not easily tuned. No after-market support and way over-priced today. Marlin Camp 9 - I own a pair of these, and they are solidly built (just keep the brake cleaner type solvents away from the synthetic trigger group), there are better recoil buffers, recoil springs and stocks available. Getting pricey but Marlin built a bunch of them. __________________ Make mine lean, mean, and 9x19!

January 7, 2014, 07:10 PM	#7
Baroke Junior Member Join Date: January 6, 2014 Posts: 8	Used 15 is a memo I'm good with anything that will except 30 round mags or more any caliber would be cool Last edited by Baroke; January 7, 2014 at 07:20 PM.

January 7, 2014, 03:42 PM	#2
BillyJack3 Senior Member Join Date: May 2, 2012 Posts: 423	What caliber are you thinking?

January 7, 2014, 04:37 PM	#3
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	I've looked at quite a few and the CX4 Storm is on the top of my list. At first I was drooling over the 45 but 8 round limit puts a cap on the fun so I'll be looking for a Beretta 92 version. Another advantage is a defensive load 9mm will gain about 200fps out of that longer barrel, putting it squarely in 357mag velocities (from a revolver). I've seen data that shows 1300fps, pretty impressive.

January 7, 2014, 05:25 PM	#5
kdstang Member Join Date: December 11, 2011 Posts: 27	Kel tec Sub-2000 can take either the Glock 17 or 22 magazines, along with the 33-round 9mm mags or 22-round .40 mags. I assume they could also take the aftermarket 50-round glock mags, but I'm not sure. The grip can also be cut to take shorter Glock 19 or 23 mags.

January 7, 2014, 11:23 PM	#9
Baroke Junior Member Join Date: January 6, 2014 Posts: 8	I know there is a jr carbine that's uses glock mags, in 9,40,45 cals but I wanted to hear people's experiences first .