1911: Colt, Springfield, or S&W? - Page 2

HK123 · July 13, 2008, 01:56 AM

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simply because I could hang a light off the front end of it

A Springfield Operator has a rail, as does one of the Sig GSR models, I have also seen the option from other manufacturers such as Nighthawk Custom.

Unregistered · July 13, 2008, 01:58 AM

Thats true, you can get a 1911 with a rail. But I would not go Springfield (personally had bad experiences) and I have heard some not so good things about the Sig 1911.

I think S&W makes a railed 1911, but not sure. I guess that is what I would go with if hell bent on a 1911.

WESHOOT2 · July 13, 2008, 09:21 AM

Ed Brown uses Baer frames; Wilson uses 'Kimber' frames.
Not sure if Caspian supplies both with slides.

vs facts:

The only TRP I've handled was absolutely superb, in fit, finish, trigger.

I would contact EGW for base-gun advice, and send it to them for enhancements.

vox rationis · July 13, 2008, 11:46 AM

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Ed Brown uses Baer frames; Wilson uses 'Kimber' frames.
Not sure if Caspian supplies both with slides.

Those are some wild rumors

Wilson makes their own frames and slides, see here:
http://www.wilsoncombat.com/a_frames_slides.asp

HK123 · July 13, 2008, 11:51 AM

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I have heard some not so good things about the Sig 1911.

There's a thread here where many people say they have no issues with their Sig GSR. Also, a Springfield is a well respected 1911 manufacturer with a loyal following.

I don't like how the guns look with a rail myself.

vox rationis · July 13, 2008, 11:55 AM

I personally don't like a rail on a 1911, but who cares what I think, if you need one then get one

Also based on all that I've read the Springfield TRP is a very well made and solid pistol, some say an equal of the high 1grand to 2grand semi customs.

IdahoG36 · July 13, 2008, 12:20 PM

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If I was going door to door, I think I would rather have a HK USP or USP Expert, simply because I could hang a light off the front end of it.

I wouldn't want either of those because they have a proprietary rail. A GLOCK
21 at least has a universal rail for mounting amost every makers light/laser. Look at the difference in these two pics-

HK123 · July 13, 2008, 01:06 PM

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I wouldn't want either of those because they have a proprietary rail. A GLOCK
21 at least has a universal rail for mounting amost every makers light/laser. Look at the difference in these two pics-

Then I only have one reply...HK45

Unregistered · July 13, 2008, 02:42 PM

Is the HK 45 a double or single stack? How many cartridges does a mag hold?

Is that a standard picatinny rail?

I agree the proprietary HK rail on the USP and Expert is a drawback.

HK123 · July 13, 2008, 03:36 PM

It's a standard rail, mag holds 10+1

vox rationis · July 13, 2008, 07:38 PM

For the most refined polymer, and yet also most bomb proof, .45 auto, I'd go with HK45 too.

WESHOOT2 · July 14, 2008, 07:20 AM

Better stated: Wilson gets their frames at the same place Kimber gets theirs (I noticed no mention of "where" on the Wilson link).

Facts is facts, ay?
I mean, vs rumors.....

Rinspeed · July 14, 2008, 12:11 PM

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Ed Brown uses Baer frames; Wilson uses 'Kimber' frames.
Not sure if Caspian supplies both with slides.

Both used to be true.

lux_aeternae · July 14, 2008, 08:12 PM

Thanks a lot guys. I will be looking at high end Springers & S&W, as well as the HK45/USP45. Have heard nothing but good things about it. Thanks a lot guys, I really appreciate it. Keep shooting buddies and keep America safe.

WESHOOT2 · July 15, 2008, 09:40 AM

???

July 13, 2008, 09:21 AM	#28
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	rumors Ed Brown uses Baer frames; Wilson uses 'Kimber' frames. Not sure if Caspian supplies both with slides. vs facts: The only TRP I've handled was absolutely superb, in fit, finish, trigger. I would contact EGW for base-gun advice, and send it to them for enhancements. __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

July 14, 2008, 07:20 AM	#37
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	further 'mongering: Better stated: Wilson gets their frames at the same place Kimber gets theirs (I noticed no mention of "where" on the Wilson link). Facts is facts, ay? I mean, vs rumors..... __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

July 15, 2008, 09:40 AM	#40
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	Today's truth ??? __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

July 13, 2008, 01:58 AM	#27
Unregistered Junior member Join Date: May 9, 2005 Posts: 1,802	Thats true, you can get a 1911 with a rail. But I would not go Springfield (personally had bad experiences) and I have heard some not so good things about the Sig 1911. I think S&W makes a railed 1911, but not sure. I guess that is what I would go with if hell bent on a 1911.

July 13, 2008, 11:55 AM	#31
vox rationis Senior Member Join Date: April 15, 2007 Posts: 1,855	I personally don't like a rail on a 1911, but who cares what I think, if you need one then get one Also based on all that I've read the Springfield TRP is a very well made and solid pistol, some say an equal of the high 1grand to 2grand semi customs.

July 13, 2008, 02:42 PM	#34
Unregistered Junior member Join Date: May 9, 2005 Posts: 1,802	Is the HK 45 a double or single stack? How many cartridges does a mag hold? Is that a standard picatinny rail? I agree the proprietary HK rail on the USP and Expert is a drawback.

July 13, 2008, 03:36 PM	#35
HK123 Junior member Join Date: May 29, 2008 Posts: 1,172	It's a standard rail, mag holds 10+1

July 13, 2008, 07:38 PM	#36
vox rationis Senior Member Join Date: April 15, 2007 Posts: 1,855	For the most refined polymer, and yet also most bomb proof, .45 auto, I'd go with HK45 too.

July 14, 2008, 08:12 PM	#39
lux_aeternae Junior Member Join Date: July 5, 2008 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 8	Thanks a lot guys. I will be looking at high end Springers & S&W, as well as the HK45/USP45. Have heard nothing but good things about it. Thanks a lot guys, I really appreciate it. Keep shooting buddies and keep America safe.