Defense against Pirates and Boarders - Page 2

highvel · September 12, 2010, 07:23 PM

Against Somali's, I think you should put you head between your knees and kiss your butt goodbye if you try to defend yourself with a pistol, any pistol!

Unless, your Chuck Norris, then you wont need any gun!

kraigwy · September 12, 2010, 07:25 PM

My grandkids figured out how to arm their boat for pirates that may be wondering the small lakes in NE Wyoming

armoredman · September 12, 2010, 07:37 PM

Ever shot from a moving deck? I have - ain't as easy as you might think. Now switch to a high speed small boat, really not easy. Yes, there was at least one encounter with Somali pirates that was stopped by professionals armed with handguns, sorry, disremember, may have been an Israeli security unit.
All of the Somali gear I have seen is in terrible shape, and the reports show that they truly are not match grade marksmen. Shooting rounds into the air or randonly in the streets doesn't make for someone who can take a precision shot off a pitching and bucking Zodiac, or other small boat trying to catch a lumbering whale of a freighter. heck, if they were in a Zodiac it would be easy - pop some shot into that inflatable and watch them get wet.

This doesn't mean they can't get lucky, find spots on the gunwale that might stop a bullet, use cover and concealment as best you can.

One thing that makes me curious, "unwritten policy"? This means if you use your sidearm, and it doesn't go 100% the companies' way, you will be hung out to dry, financially and legally. Get some legal back up in writing first.

aroundchicago · September 12, 2010, 07:45 PM

Here is the gun you need aboard the merchant ship. Pirates would hate it.

http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/futu...naval-gun.html

Glenn Dee · September 12, 2010, 08:43 PM

I believe that there are pirates also in the caribian.... seriously. Many of the super yachts out of Ft Lauderdale have a compliment of weapons, and crew members who are qualified to use them.

Rampant_Colt · September 12, 2010, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highvel

Against Somali's, I think you should put you head between your knees and kiss your butt goodbye if you try to defend yourself with a pistol, any pistol!

Unless, you're Chuck Norris, then you wont need any gun!

Save the last round in the mag for yourself

Taking on a group of heavily armed, determined, experienced assailants boarding your vessel would pose a serious health threat unless you're highly trained in maritime ship-board defense or close quarters H2H combat like Chuck Norris or Steven Seagal LoL.

Not to state the obvious, but the best option would be to not let them get on board in the first place..

Capt. Charlie · September 12, 2010, 09:16 PM

Oy!

Maybe that should be an Oy Vey.

So many reasons to close this one.

Naw, I won't even go there.

Closed.

September 12, 2010, 07:23 PM	#26
highvel Senior Member Join Date: January 21, 2010 Location: Powhatan VA Posts: 633	Against Somali's, I think you should put you head between your knees and kiss your butt goodbye if you try to defend yourself with a pistol, any pistol! Unless, your Chuck Norris, then you wont need any gun! __________________ Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.--Mark Twain "I have opinions of my own 'strong opinions' but I don't always agree with them."--George Bush

September 12, 2010, 07:25 PM	#27
kraigwy Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 11,061	My grandkids figured out how to arm their boat for pirates that may be wondering the small lakes in NE Wyoming __________________ Kraig Stuart CPT USAR Ret USAMU Sniper School Distinguished Rifle Badge 1071

September 12, 2010, 09:16 PM	#32
Capt. Charlie Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 24, 2005 Location: Steubenville, OH Posts: 4,446	Oy! Maybe that should be an Oy Vey. So many reasons to close this one. Naw, I won't even go there. Closed. __________________ TFL Members are ambassadors to the world for firearm owners. What kind of ambassador does *your* post make *you?* I train in earnest, to do the things that I pray in earnest, I'll never have to do. --Capt. Charlie

September 12, 2010, 07:37 PM	#28
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,299	Ever shot from a moving deck? I have - ain't as easy as you might think. Now switch to a high speed small boat, really not easy. Yes, there was at least one encounter with Somali pirates that was stopped by professionals armed with handguns, sorry, disremember, may have been an Israeli security unit. All of the Somali gear I have seen is in terrible shape, and the reports show that they truly are not match grade marksmen. Shooting rounds into the air or randonly in the streets doesn't make for someone who can take a precision shot off a pitching and bucking Zodiac, or other small boat trying to catch a lumbering whale of a freighter. heck, if they were in a Zodiac it would be easy - pop some shot into that inflatable and watch them get wet. This doesn't mean they can't get lucky, find spots on the gunwale that might stop a bullet, use cover and concealment as best you can. One thing that makes me curious, "unwritten policy"? This means if you use your sidearm, and it doesn't go 100% the companies' way, you will be hung out to dry, financially and legally. Get some legal back up in writing first.

September 12, 2010, 07:45 PM	#29
aroundchicago Senior Member Join Date: March 8, 2010 Location: The Worst Place For Gun Owners Posts: 160	Here is the gun you need aboard the merchant ship. Pirates would hate it. http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/futu...naval-gun.html

September 12, 2010, 08:43 PM	#30
Glenn Dee Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,560	I believe that there are pirates also in the caribian.... seriously. Many of the super yachts out of Ft Lauderdale have a compliment of weapons, and crew members who are qualified to use them.