PPC shooters, where are they?

chris in va · April 5, 2015, 12:52 PM

Browsing through my Lyman manual I see the 6mm PPC is touted as the most accurate cartridge. Maybe my range is just not ideal for benchrest shooters, but I've yet to see anyone shooting one (or similar) in 7 years going there.

Is this more of an elite, cult cartridge that requires secret meetings and a special ring?

emcon5 · April 5, 2015, 01:06 PM

Have you gone to benchrest matches, or are you just saying you don't see them at the public line at your local range?

T. O'Heir · April 5, 2015, 01:31 PM

Everything about shooting 6mm PPC is cu$tom. Midway is currently clearing out the Norma bra$$. Otherwise, it's make it out of .220 Ru$$ian that runs $119.99 per 100 and is only made by Lapua.
http://www.6mmbr.com/6PPC.html

old roper · April 5, 2015, 06:11 PM

I have few tight neck rifles that I use for varmint shooting and one is a 6ppc.

Outside of trying new bullet or something it doesn't spend much time at the range.

chris in va · April 6, 2015, 12:42 AM

I've just never seen anyone with a PPC rifle is all. I guess it's more of a club thing.

Tony Z · April 6, 2015, 04:11 AM

I remember reading a lot about the PPC thing decades ago, then don't seem to hear much anymore (could be what I'm reading or not reading), but could the PPC thing also have been a somewhat regional cartridge?

old roper · April 6, 2015, 07:54 AM

Sako sold rifles chambered for the 22/6ppc and Ruger sold bolt action and #1 chamber for the 22/6ppc.

My 6ppc is Hart barrel with .262 neck build on Ruger #1 with set triggers. It started life as factory #1 chambered for 22ppc.

emcon5 · April 6, 2015, 10:34 AM

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I've just never seen anyone with a PPC rifle is all. I guess it's more of a club thing.

Have you gone to benchrest matches, or are you just saying you don't see them at the public line at your local range?

chris in va · April 6, 2015, 12:21 PM

I haven't seen one at or 300 yard range. That's why I'm asking if this is strictly a 'club' cartridge or something more universal that you just don't see much of.

emcon5 · April 6, 2015, 03:45 PM

I think it is primarily a benchrest competition cartridge, and that is where you would see it the most.

Look at the match results from benchrest orgs:

http://internationalbenchrest.com/results/index.php

The few I looked at for the group results, most rifles were either 6mm PPC or .30BR.

The other big group I know of is these guys, but you can't see match results and equipment unless you are a member: http://nbrsa.org

reynolds357 · April 6, 2015, 07:06 PM

The 6ppc is at the benchrest matches.

It was the uncontested king until the .30 Br and the 6 Br Norma began to gain in popularity. Usually at a 100 or 200 yard match, at least half the rifles shooting are 6PPC.

roc1 · April 6, 2015, 08:01 PM

At my range I think I am one of the few that doesn't own one. Our guys are benchrest competitors.
Roc1

chris in va · April 8, 2015, 01:29 AM

Interesting, thanks for the info.

Now is this cartridge strictly for benchrest or does anyone hunt/varmint with it?

emcon5 · April 9, 2015, 01:47 PM

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Now is this cartridge strictly for benchrest or does anyone hunt/varmint with it?

You certainly could, but I can't see why you would want to. The PPC is about as slow as you can get in a 6mm cartridge, about 500 FPS slower than the .243 Win in any given bullet weight.

It may be one of the most inherently accurate cartridges, but in reality that isn't needed in a hunting or varmint rifle. From the field not many people would be able to tell the difference between a 1/4 MOA and a 3/4 MOA rifle.

PPC chambered rifles are pretty much custom only (aside from the Sako and Ruger mentioned above), if you were wanting to build a custom varmint rig, there are better choices in cartridges, if you were building a custom benchrest rig, you probably wouldn't want to use up your finite barrel life blasting P-Dogs.

Never say never though, I am sure at some point someone built a 6MM PPC hunting rifle.

April 5, 2015, 01:31 PM	#3
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	Everything about shooting 6mm PPC is cu$tom. Midway is currently clearing out the Norma bra$$. Otherwise, it's make it out of .220 Ru$$ian that runs $119.99 per 100 and is only made by Lapua. http://www.6mmbr.com/6PPC.html __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

April 5, 2015, 06:11 PM	#4
old roper Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2007 Posts: 2,155	I have few tight neck rifles that I use for varmint shooting and one is a 6ppc. Outside of trying new bullet or something it doesn't spend much time at the range. __________________ Semper Fi Vietnam 1965 VFW Life member NRA Life Member

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old roper Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2007 Posts: 2,155	Sako sold rifles chambered for the 22/6ppc and Ruger sold bolt action and #1 chamber for the 22/6ppc. My 6ppc is Hart barrel with .262 neck build on Ruger #1 with set triggers. It started life as factory #1 chambered for 22ppc. __________________ Semper Fi Vietnam 1965 VFW Life member NRA Life Member

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April 5, 2015, 12:52 PM	#1
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	PPC shooters, where are they? Browsing through my Lyman manual I see the 6mm PPC is touted as the most accurate cartridge. Maybe my range is just not ideal for benchrest shooters, but I've yet to see anyone shooting one (or similar) in 7 years going there. Is this more of an elite, cult cartridge that requires secret meetings and a special ring?

April 5, 2015, 01:06 PM	#2
emcon5 Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 1999 Location: High Desert NV Posts: 2,850	Have you gone to benchrest matches, or are you just saying you don't see them at the public line at your local range?

April 6, 2015, 12:42 AM	#5
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	I've just never seen anyone with a PPC rifle is all. I guess it's more of a club thing.

April 6, 2015, 04:11 AM	#6
Tony Z Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2013 Location: North Central Pennsyltucky Posts: 749	I remember reading a lot about the PPC thing decades ago, then don't seem to hear much anymore (could be what I'm reading or not reading), but could the PPC thing also have been a somewhat regional cartridge?

April 6, 2015, 12:21 PM	#9
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	I haven't seen one at or 300 yard range. That's why I'm asking if this is strictly a 'club' cartridge or something more universal that you just don't see much of.

April 6, 2015, 03:45 PM	#10
emcon5 Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 1999 Location: High Desert NV Posts: 2,850	I think it is primarily a benchrest competition cartridge, and that is where you would see it the most. Look at the match results from benchrest orgs: http://internationalbenchrest.com/results/index.php The few I looked at for the group results, most rifles were either 6mm PPC or .30BR. The other big group I know of is these guys, but you can't see match results and equipment unless you are a member: http://nbrsa.org

April 6, 2015, 07:06 PM	#11
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,164	The 6ppc is at the benchrest matches. It was the uncontested king until the .30 Br and the 6 Br Norma began to gain in popularity. Usually at a 100 or 200 yard match, at least half the rifles shooting are 6PPC.

April 6, 2015, 08:01 PM	#12
roc1 Senior Member Join Date: July 31, 2005 Location: Lubbock Texas Posts: 560	At my range I think I am one of the few that doesn't own one. Our guys are benchrest competitors. Roc1

April 8, 2015, 01:29 AM	#13
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	Interesting, thanks for the info. Now is this cartridge strictly for benchrest or does anyone hunt/varmint with it?