Wierd Wildcat Round

xXStarScreamXx · March 9, 2005, 01:29 AM

I was over at my Grandpa's today and we were talking about his Ruber blackhawk and he showed me an extra cylinder he had. It was bored out to 44 magnum and he showed me a bullet, 44 necked down to .357 magnum. I looked at the case and it had a wierd plastic/rubber insert. He said the guy who made it, (it was in Guns and Ammo in the 70's in the SF Bay Area) had these little collars made so the cylinder could recieve the necked down cases better. Any one heard of this round? Anyone know where to get the little collars? They appear to be black plastic or rubber, very thin and cut to fit.

Weve looked at hardware stores to see if anything fits but no, we want to reload these rounds as he says they are a blast to shoot.

m0ntels · March 9, 2005, 10:46 AM

http://www.reloadbench.com/cartridges/w35744bd.html

That's the first that comes to mind...

Randy

Jim Watson · March 9, 2005, 03:12 PM

I remember the article, but I haven't a clue as to where to get the little shoulder collars. That was at least 25 years ago and the design a short-lived fad, if that. Yours is the first I have ever heard of in private hands. As David Woodruff the barrel reliner of that era said, wildcats are mostly good for magazine articles.

The idea was, since a bottleneck cartridge like the .357-44 B&D montels refers to tends to back out of its bottleneck chamber and bind cylinder rotation, to make the bottleneck portion of the chamber a separate piece.

A friend with a lathe and some delrin or nylon rod could make up a few without too much trouble, but I would hate to pay hourly rates for it.

March 9, 2005, 01:29 AM	#1
xXStarScreamXx Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2005 Location: Nor*Cal 707 Posts: 353	Wierd Wildcat Round I was over at my Grandpa's today and we were talking about his Ruber blackhawk and he showed me an extra cylinder he had. It was bored out to 44 magnum and he showed me a bullet, 44 necked down to .357 magnum. I looked at the case and it had a wierd plastic/rubber insert. He said the guy who made it, (it was in Guns and Ammo in the 70's in the SF Bay Area) had these little collars made so the cylinder could recieve the necked down cases better. Any one heard of this round? Anyone know where to get the little collars? They appear to be black plastic or rubber, very thin and cut to fit. Weve looked at hardware stores to see if anything fits but no, we want to reload these rounds as he says they are a blast to shoot. __________________ I still don't see why cannibalism is a crime.

March 9, 2005, 10:46 AM	#2
m0ntels Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2004 Location: Perkasie, PA Posts: 263	http://www.reloadbench.com/cartridges/w35744bd.html That's the first that comes to mind... Randy

March 9, 2005, 03:12 PM	#3
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,541	I remember the article, but I haven't a clue as to where to get the little shoulder collars. That was at least 25 years ago and the design a short-lived fad, if that. Yours is the first I have ever heard of in private hands. As David Woodruff the barrel reliner of that era said, wildcats are mostly good for magazine articles. The idea was, since a bottleneck cartridge like the .357-44 B&D montels refers to tends to back out of its bottleneck chamber and bind cylinder rotation, to make the bottleneck portion of the chamber a separate piece. A friend with a lathe and some delrin or nylon rod could make up a few without too much trouble, but I would hate to pay hourly rates for it.