243 vs 270

recycler · February 22, 2005, 07:04 PM

I'm looking for a quality rifle.

I was thinking of a 243 or 270. I have a 30-06 for deer season. I'm looking for a light weight (6-7 lbs), flat shooter, without a lot of kick (my 13 yr old will use this as his deer season gun). It will mainly be used for coyote at 300 + yds.

I'm open to suggestions on other models. I looking for the best quality under $1,000.

I've read tikka is accurate out of the box?

Any suggestions?

dfaugh · February 22, 2005, 07:24 PM

I had a lightweight (7+or- lbs. w/ scope) .270...And it kicked the cr@p outa me...So I think the .243 makes more sense for a young shooter...My .02

k in AR · February 22, 2005, 07:50 PM

a 270 is just a necked down 30-06 and normally uses between 120 and 150 gr bullets for deer, not much of a recoil reducer there...

the 243 is a necked down 308 case and most deer loads are between 85 and 100 grs. I know a lot of people ( both recoil sensitive and not ) who swear by it for deer and have the results to back it up.

hivel37 · February 23, 2005, 01:26 AM

This agrees with previous posts. Go with the .243. A light .270 would be too much for your young'un. Sometimes it's too much for me.

g_gunter · February 23, 2005, 10:26 AM

Got one for my 10 year old and he got his first deer this past season. He's a little guy and recoil was a concern but the .243 fit the bill. Dropped the doe in her tracks.

g_gunter

mete · February 23, 2005, 12:41 PM

A 7mm-08 might be a better option. The Tikka garantees 1" groups.A stock that doesn't fit will magnify recoil .Depending on his size you might get a youth model .A good recoil pad will help also www.limbsaver.com or the Pachmyer Decelerator.

bill k · February 23, 2005, 12:53 PM

I made a simlar post earlier for my 13 year old neice. A 25-06 had too much recoil, the 243 was just right. The standard remington was too large for her to shoot comfortably. It was sugested to me from this forum to try the H&R single shot youth gun in 243. The size is perfect for her, the cost is under $250.00. We pick it up in about a week.
From the research I done the rifle shoots about 2.0 inch groups at 100 yards.

cntryboy1289 · February 23, 2005, 03:18 PM

I hope she gets some good use from the Handy rifle Bill. Both of my sons learned with it and I hope to teach my daughter with in a year or two. She's a lefty as well and all I need to reverse the cocking extension for her. Hope your neice kills a big un.

BTW, I handloaded for my son with a 85gr Barnes triple shock using H4350. It comes in with about an inch group with that load and the recoil is a little milder than the 95 or 100 grain bullets. I also used the 95grain Winchester BST with the same powder and had even better groups. Good luck

JKump · February 24, 2005, 10:25 AM

Here is another view. Take a look at a NEF single shot rifles. They have a youth model and an Ultra light version in .243. I think the .243 is the way to go. Put a good scope on the rifle and with the money you save (buying the NEF rifle) get plenty of ammo. He will have fun shooting all that extra ammo and he will develop into a better shot knowing he has one shot to make it count. Hunting with a single shot is a blast.

Greg R · February 24, 2005, 09:38 PM

If those are my only choices, I would choose the .243.

However, I think the .260 is a much better choice. I have had great luck with the .260 on deer and hogs. Downloaded to 2,150 with 130 grain Barnes Triple Shocks, my 33 pound, 5 year old daughter shot her first buck with it this season (See the inside cover of Superior Ammunition's 2005 catalog for a pic). It does not kick much more than a .243 (less with hand loads), yet it performs far better on game. Just my .02.

February 22, 2005, 07:04 PM	#1
recycler Junior Member Join Date: February 22, 2005 Posts: 2	243 vs 270 I'm looking for a quality rifle. I was thinking of a 243 or 270. I have a 30-06 for deer season. I'm looking for a light weight (6-7 lbs), flat shooter, without a lot of kick (my 13 yr old will use this as his deer season gun). It will mainly be used for coyote at 300 + yds. I'm open to suggestions on other models. I looking for the best quality under $1,000. I've read tikka is accurate out of the box? Any suggestions?

February 22, 2005, 07:24 PM	#2
dfaugh Senior Member Join Date: January 17, 2002 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 1,715	Well... I had a lightweight (7+or- lbs. w/ scope) .270...And it kicked the cr@p outa me...So I think the .243 makes more sense for a young shooter...My .02 __________________ "If you Listen to Fools, the Mob Rules" "No one has the answer, but one thing is true. You'e got to turn on evil, when its coming after you. You've gotta face it down,and when it tries to hide, you've got to go in after it, and never be denied. Time is running out...Let's roll. Let's roll for freedom, let's roll for love. We're going after satan, on the wings of a dove. Let's roll for freedom, let's roll for truth. Let's not let our children grow up fearful in their youth."

February 23, 2005, 10:26 AM	#5
g_gunter Member Join Date: November 5, 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 78	Go with the .243! Got one for my 10 year old and he got his first deer this past season. He's a little guy and recoil was a concern but the .243 fit the bill. Dropped the doe in her tracks. g_gunter

February 23, 2005, 12:53 PM	#7
bill k Senior Member Join Date: December 9, 2004 Location: Dog Creek, CA Posts: 457	I made a simlar post earlier for my 13 year old neice. A 25-06 had too much recoil, the 243 was just right. The standard remington was too large for her to shoot comfortably. It was sugested to me from this forum to try the H&R single shot youth gun in 243. The size is perfect for her, the cost is under $250.00. We pick it up in about a week. From the research I done the rifle shoots about 2.0 inch groups at 100 yards. __________________ Retired Air Force 8th TFW The Wolfpack

February 23, 2005, 03:18 PM	#8
cntryboy1289 Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 2004 Location: Ms Posts: 1,160	Glad to hear that Bill I hope she gets some good use from the Handy rifle Bill. Both of my sons learned with it and I hope to teach my daughter with in a year or two. She's a lefty as well and all I need to reverse the cocking extension for her. Hope your neice kills a big un. BTW, I handloaded for my son with a 85gr Barnes triple shock using H4350. It comes in with about an inch group with that load and the recoil is a little milder than the 95 or 100 grain bullets. I also used the 95grain Winchester BST with the same powder and had even better groups. Good luck

February 22, 2005, 07:50 PM	#3
k in AR Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 1999 Location: Arkansas USA Posts: 436	a 270 is just a necked down 30-06 and normally uses between 120 and 150 gr bullets for deer, not much of a recoil reducer there... the 243 is a necked down 308 case and most deer loads are between 85 and 100 grs. I know a lot of people ( both recoil sensitive and not ) who swear by it for deer and have the results to back it up.

February 23, 2005, 01:26 AM	#4
hivel37 Senior Member Join Date: August 24, 2004 Location: Hill Country Posts: 522	This agrees with previous posts. Go with the .243. A light .270 would be too much for your young'un. Sometimes it's too much for me.

February 23, 2005, 12:41 PM	#6
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	A 7mm-08 might be a better option. The Tikka garantees 1" groups.A stock that doesn't fit will magnify recoil .Depending on his size you might get a youth model .A good recoil pad will help also www.limbsaver.com or the Pachmyer Decelerator.

February 24, 2005, 10:25 AM	#9
JKump Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 1998 Location: Middle Georgia Posts: 428	Here is another view. Take a look at a NEF single shot rifles. They have a youth model and an Ultra light version in .243. I think the .243 is the way to go. Put a good scope on the rifle and with the money you save (buying the NEF rifle) get plenty of ammo. He will have fun shooting all that extra ammo and he will develop into a better shot knowing he has one shot to make it count. Hunting with a single shot is a blast. __________________ Live everyday as if it is your last! Because someday you will be right. "Everyone has a game plan until they get punched in the mouth".

February 24, 2005, 09:38 PM	#10
Greg R Junior Member Join Date: May 23, 2001 Location: Stafford, TX Posts: 8	If those are my only choices, I would choose the .243. However, I think the .260 is a much better choice. I have had great luck with the .260 on deer and hogs. Downloaded to 2,150 with 130 grain Barnes Triple Shocks, my 33 pound, 5 year old daughter shot her first buck with it this season (See the inside cover of Superior Ammunition's 2005 catalog for a pic). It does not kick much more than a .243 (less with hand loads), yet it performs far better on game. Just my .02. __________________ Greg Rodriguez

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