Coyote Cartridge - Page 2

upstate81 · January 16, 2015, 12:45 PM

Most real fur hunters use center fire .17s and 204s. The 22 hornet and the 223 work great with proper loads. My personal favorite is the .222 hands down. Head over to the predator masters forums you shall be enlightened. A 243 will blow a huge hole in wiley coyote

as will a 22-250. Use those and you will be doing some sewing

tahunua001 · January 16, 2015, 01:16 PM

I would say probably the most prolific is 223. a lot also favor the 204 ruger. personally, I think anything that can reach out 300 yards is a good coyote cartridge. I don't tan hides or anything so it doesn't matter to me if I explode a little fur.

Kosh75287 · January 16, 2015, 03:01 PM

I wonder how a quick-twist .22 Hornet or .218 Bee with 55 grain FMJs might work. Might limit your range a little, but should be nice to the pelts.

Panfisher · January 16, 2015, 03:07 PM

If you are wanting a new double duty rifle then the .243 would fill that niche nicely. If you want a new coyote rifle, well nothing wrong with that either. If cost is a problem and you already have the AR, scope it, sight it in, and buy an electronic call and hit the woods. The .223 will kill coyotes nicely, and most that come to calls are not long range shots, and the rapid re-acquisition and shoot again characteristics of the AR can be might handy at times. Who am I to judge though, I have a .22 Mag, .22 Hornet, 2 .223's, and a .22-250.

BIG P · January 17, 2015, 02:51 AM

22-250 Does a fine job,But I like to watch the fur fly off & the red vapor when the 25-06 says hello.

gman3 · January 17, 2015, 01:12 PM

Yes, exactly. Red swirly vapor tornados are not uncommon, particularly with the 100 grain Sierra Game King bullet. The 100 grain Hornady is not quite as gruesome. I have a 7mm WSM. I can't imagine the mess that would make. You could probably pick up the hair and use it to mix plaster. That's about all that the remains would be good for.

reynolds357 · January 17, 2015, 03:42 PM

The last few I shot with the 7 WSM were practically cut in half. Just a bit of spine and skin left holding them together. It really surprised me the amount of damage it did. Tears up a yote much more than it tears up a whitetail.

huntinaz · January 17, 2015, 04:36 PM

A 12 gauge with #4 buckshot works great and is easy on fur. Shotgunning them is a lot of fun, my 12 Ga is my go to predator thumper.

upstate81 · January 17, 2015, 05:17 PM

I totally agree i like the federal premium copper plated 3 inch shells out of a full choke. I have a extra full choke im gonna try, curious to see what my pattern will be like. Maybe i can extend my range 10 yards or so.

rickyrick · January 17, 2015, 06:12 PM

I had never owned a hunting shotgun, but if I did, it would have served me well. Most of my coyote kills were surprisingly short range...

I took one at 100 one night, (the longest I've taken) she was coming in to investigate the first gunshot of a coyote I had shot a few minutes before...

That reminds me to say always wait a few minutes after shooting one before retrieving it, just incase another shows

bucksnort13 · January 20, 2015, 02:31 PM

I have decide to use my Ar but I do not have a scope on it so do any of you guys have a good recommendation for a good scope to put on my AR that is $200 and under that would work well on coyotes. I am also just wondering what is the average shot put on coyotes when using calls and have any of you used the foxpro Wildfire and would it be a good starter call.

rickyrick · January 20, 2015, 03:19 PM

All of my shots have been less than 100yds

3-9x40 has served me well, but have rarely turned up the magnification.... Can be had for less than 200$... There are some naysayers but Nikon and bushnell can be had that work

My best calls have been open reed type... Coyotes adapt to the closed reed type in my experience... Never much luck with e-callers but some hunters do well...

Mind the wind and find their normal path of travel

rickyrick · January 20, 2015, 03:37 PM

I might add that a seat that:
1. Supports the back
2. Lightweight
3. Easy to pack and set up quickly without a bunch of noise

Would be very useful... I never had one, but many times I wish I did

Blindstitch · January 20, 2015, 05:24 PM

If you want a quick little seat which may not be the most comfortable for hours on end Frabill/Plano makes one for ice fishing that I use. It packs up tight and has a backrest. But it's only 3 legged. I use mine for fishing all the time because it packs up tight.

bamaranger · January 20, 2015, 11:18 PM

Hey 'Stitch,

Would that seat hold/hold up a coyote hunter that weighed about 260 lbs?

I'm in the market for a portable stool/seat, mostly for turkey blind.

hartcreek · January 20, 2015, 11:24 PM

You are going to have a pocket full of calls. Deer calls, elk calls thoses bleet cans and mouse squeekers even a crow call but do not forget about the two coin trick....serriated coin and a smooth coin.

Blindstitch · January 21, 2015, 06:01 AM

bamaranger,

I want to say the seat will hold up but I don't know. I haven't broken it yet and i'm around 200.

I know there are similar products made by other companies that should offer a better warranty. Here's an example from REI. I believe there policy is if you don't like it or break it they'll take it back no questions asked.

http://www.rei.com/product/767165/gc...or-quik-e-seat

mardanlin · January 21, 2015, 10:31 AM

I'm going to suggest you take your AR. I use mine for yotes but keep it loaded with 69gr soft points in case I see a deer instead. Works like a charm on any shot that's iron sight distance away, no optic so I can't comment on accuracy past 250yd or so.

Longshot4 · January 21, 2015, 11:58 AM

Stick with the AR and you will have a quick fallow up shot. Put a 3-9 Nikon on it. Get one of the steel tube 2 piece folding stools with a strap and pouch underneath. I use a $12.00 telescopic monopod I picked up at K-Marts. It works well.

Now if you want to spend some more money. All you need to do is Get a Rem. 700 in 243 , a good Lupold 4-14 scope, good sling. pop-up blind or snow camo, stool, Midway has a good variety of call's and a deep pocket.

bucksnort13 · January 22, 2015, 12:36 AM

Thanks for the tips guys I will for sure look for a decent scope to throw on the Ar and I will also be looking into a light seat to take with me. I also have one more question should I reload my ammo or just buy it.

mardanlin · January 24, 2015, 11:58 AM

Soft point 223 ammo runs about $1/rd here in stores, I can reload it for around $0.40.

4runnerman · January 24, 2015, 08:42 PM

223 here also. 22-250 ( IMHO) is a wasted caliber. I got one,just not sure why I did. Depending on your twist the 223 will shoot a heavier bullet,more accurate and with little loss in speed. I would question the Deer aspect of a 223 but for Coyotes. Have at it

Picher · January 25, 2015, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Longshot: Get one of the steel tube 2 piece folding stools with a strap and pouch underneath. I use a $12.00 telescopic monopod I picked up at K-Marts. It works well.

Now if you want to spend some more money. All you need to do is Get a Rem. 700 in 243 , a good Lupold 4-14 scope, good sling. pop-up blind or snow camo, stool, Midway has a good variety of call's and a deep pocket.

This guy has pretty much what I use. Last July, with my new Rem 700 SS Light Varmint in .223, I got three young dogs (in about 10 minutes) as they were eating blueberries along the edge of some saplings about 100 yards away.

After the first shot, the other two ran back to cover, but came back to eat, then after the second, the third did the same thing and got the same fate. I never saw more than about a 4" diameter clear shot on the last two.

Tinbucket · January 25, 2015, 08:33 PM

I would consider the .257 Wby magnum and the 26 in barrel.
Wisconsin is pretty open and level ground, from what I've seen.
Four or five hundred yard shots might be ordinary.
You can hunt deer with it too but close in the bullets like to explode and create a lot of meat damage.
You can buy Wby cartridges loaded with different premium bullets.
No it is not as cheap as .22-250.
That will work too.
Four and five hundred yard shots I would go with the .257 and .270 Wby.
Just my preference.
Lots of good rounds out there.

reynolds357 · January 25, 2015, 08:45 PM

Maybe our yotes behave differently from your yotes. The ones around here never get still. They will not go to bait in the daytime. No way I am shooting at a moving target at 500 yards or a still target at 500 in the dark.

January 16, 2015, 01:16 PM	#27
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	I would say probably the most prolific is 223. a lot also favor the 204 ruger. personally, I think anything that can reach out 300 yards is a good coyote cartridge. I don't tan hides or anything so it doesn't matter to me if I explode a little fur. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

January 17, 2015, 04:36 PM	#33
huntinaz Senior Member Join Date: September 21, 2010 Location: az Posts: 1,332	A 12 gauge with #4 buckshot works great and is easy on fur. Shotgunning them is a lot of fun, my 12 Ga is my go to predator thumper. __________________ "When there’s lead in the air, there’s hope in the heart”- Hunter’s Proverb "Feed me, or feed me to something. I just want to be part of the food chain." -Al Bundy

January 17, 2015, 06:12 PM	#35
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,236	I had never owned a hunting shotgun, but if I did, it would have served me well. Most of my coyote kills were surprisingly short range... I took one at 100 one night, (the longest I've taken) she was coming in to investigate the first gunshot of a coyote I had shot a few minutes before... That reminds me to say always wait a few minutes after shooting one before retrieving it, just incase another shows __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

January 20, 2015, 03:19 PM	#37
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,236	All of my shots have been less than 100yds 3-9x40 has served me well, but have rarely turned up the magnification.... Can be had for less than 200$... There are some naysayers but Nikon and bushnell can be had that work My best calls have been open reed type... Coyotes adapt to the closed reed type in my experience... Never much luck with e-callers but some hunters do well... Mind the wind and find their normal path of travel __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

January 20, 2015, 03:37 PM	#38
rickyrick Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2010 Posts: 8,236	I might add that a seat that: 1. Supports the back 2. Lightweight 3. Easy to pack and set up quickly without a bunch of noise Would be very useful... I never had one, but many times I wish I did __________________ Woohoo, I’m back In Texas!!!

January 16, 2015, 12:45 PM	#26
upstate81 Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2011 Location: NY Posts: 801	Most real fur hunters use center fire .17s and 204s. The 22 hornet and the 223 work great with proper loads. My personal favorite is the .222 hands down. Head over to the predator masters forums you shall be enlightened. A 243 will blow a huge hole in wiley coyote as will a 22-250. Use those and you will be doing some sewing

January 16, 2015, 03:01 PM	#28
Kosh75287 Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 2007 Posts: 820	I wonder how a quick-twist .22 Hornet or .218 Bee with 55 grain FMJs might work. Might limit your range a little, but should be nice to the pelts.

January 16, 2015, 03:07 PM	#29
Panfisher Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2010 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,337	If you are wanting a new double duty rifle then the .243 would fill that niche nicely. If you want a new coyote rifle, well nothing wrong with that either. If cost is a problem and you already have the AR, scope it, sight it in, and buy an electronic call and hit the woods. The .223 will kill coyotes nicely, and most that come to calls are not long range shots, and the rapid re-acquisition and shoot again characteristics of the AR can be might handy at times. Who am I to judge though, I have a .22 Mag, .22 Hornet, 2 .223's, and a .22-250.

January 17, 2015, 02:51 AM	#30
BIG P Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2010 Location: North Georgia Posts: 1,679	22-250 Does a fine job,But I like to watch the fur fly off & the red vapor when the 25-06 says hello.

January 17, 2015, 01:12 PM	#31
gman3 Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Posts: 408	Yes, exactly. Red swirly vapor tornados are not uncommon, particularly with the 100 grain Sierra Game King bullet. The 100 grain Hornady is not quite as gruesome. I have a 7mm WSM. I can't imagine the mess that would make. You could probably pick up the hair and use it to mix plaster. That's about all that the remains would be good for.

January 17, 2015, 03:42 PM	#32
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,165	The last few I shot with the 7 WSM were practically cut in half. Just a bit of spine and skin left holding them together. It really surprised me the amount of damage it did. Tears up a yote much more than it tears up a whitetail.

January 17, 2015, 05:17 PM	#34
upstate81 Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2011 Location: NY Posts: 801	I totally agree i like the federal premium copper plated 3 inch shells out of a full choke. I have a extra full choke im gonna try, curious to see what my pattern will be like. Maybe i can extend my range 10 yards or so.

January 20, 2015, 02:31 PM	#36
bucksnort13 Member Join Date: October 29, 2014 Posts: 51	I have decide to use my Ar but I do not have a scope on it so do any of you guys have a good recommendation for a good scope to put on my AR that is $200 and under that would work well on coyotes. I am also just wondering what is the average shot put on coyotes when using calls and have any of you used the foxpro Wildfire and would it be a good starter call.

January 20, 2015, 05:24 PM	#39
Blindstitch Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2013 Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 2,693	If you want a quick little seat which may not be the most comfortable for hours on end Frabill/Plano makes one for ice fishing that I use. It packs up tight and has a backrest. But it's only 3 legged. I use mine for fishing all the time because it packs up tight.

January 20, 2015, 11:18 PM	#40
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,308	heavy dude Hey 'Stitch, Would that seat hold/hold up a coyote hunter that weighed about 260 lbs? I'm in the market for a portable stool/seat, mostly for turkey blind.

January 20, 2015, 11:24 PM	#41
hartcreek Junior member Join Date: April 22, 2014 Location: Washington Posts: 1,549	You are going to have a pocket full of calls. Deer calls, elk calls thoses bleet cans and mouse squeekers even a crow call but do not forget about the two coin trick....serriated coin and a smooth coin.

January 21, 2015, 06:01 AM	#42
Blindstitch Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2013 Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 2,693	bamaranger, I want to say the seat will hold up but I don't know. I haven't broken it yet and i'm around 200. I know there are similar products made by other companies that should offer a better warranty. Here's an example from REI. I believe there policy is if you don't like it or break it they'll take it back no questions asked. http://www.rei.com/product/767165/gc...or-quik-e-seat

January 21, 2015, 10:31 AM	#43
mardanlin Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2013 Posts: 208	I'm going to suggest you take your AR. I use mine for yotes but keep it loaded with 69gr soft points in case I see a deer instead. Works like a charm on any shot that's iron sight distance away, no optic so I can't comment on accuracy past 250yd or so.

January 21, 2015, 11:58 AM	#44
Longshot4 Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2014 Posts: 868	Stick with the AR and you will have a quick fallow up shot. Put a 3-9 Nikon on it. Get one of the steel tube 2 piece folding stools with a strap and pouch underneath. I use a $12.00 telescopic monopod I picked up at K-Marts. It works well. Now if you want to spend some more money. All you need to do is Get a Rem. 700 in 243 , a good Lupold 4-14 scope, good sling. pop-up blind or snow camo, stool, Midway has a good variety of call's and a deep pocket.

January 22, 2015, 12:36 AM	#45
bucksnort13 Member Join Date: October 29, 2014 Posts: 51	Thanks for the tips guys I will for sure look for a decent scope to throw on the Ar and I will also be looking into a light seat to take with me. I also have one more question should I reload my ammo or just buy it.

January 24, 2015, 11:58 AM	#46
mardanlin Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2013 Posts: 208	Soft point 223 ammo runs about $1/rd here in stores, I can reload it for around $0.40.

January 24, 2015, 08:42 PM	#47
4runnerman Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,577	223 here also. 22-250 ( IMHO) is a wasted caliber. I got one,just not sure why I did. Depending on your twist the 223 will shoot a heavier bullet,more accurate and with little loss in speed. I would question the Deer aspect of a 223 but for Coyotes. Have at it __________________ NRA Certified RSO NwCP- Performance Isn't Optional

January 25, 2015, 08:33 PM	#49
Tinbucket Senior Member Join Date: January 17, 2015 Posts: 355	Coyote Cartridge I would consider the .257 Wby magnum and the 26 in barrel. Wisconsin is pretty open and level ground, from what I've seen. Four or five hundred yard shots might be ordinary. You can hunt deer with it too but close in the bullets like to explode and create a lot of meat damage. You can buy Wby cartridges loaded with different premium bullets. No it is not as cheap as .22-250. That will work too. Four and five hundred yard shots I would go with the .257 and .270 Wby. Just my preference. Lots of good rounds out there.

January 25, 2015, 08:45 PM	#50
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,165	Maybe our yotes behave differently from your yotes. The ones around here never get still. They will not go to bait in the daytime. No way I am shooting at a moving target at 500 yards or a still target at 500 in the dark.