Caught the .410 bug

OkieCruffler · November 23, 2002, 08:24 AM

The Wife and myself have caught the .410 bug. There's something very satisfying about breaking clays with that 11/16oz of shot. So far we only have an old Sears and Roebuck singleshot, but I've got my eyes out for a Steven's 311 and The Wife thinks she wants a semi-auto. But we have found that these things are expensive to shoot. And the only shotshell loader I have is a Lee Loadall, and you can't reload .410 in it. So what is a good, cheap alternative? Seems to me that you should be able to reload .410 for next to nothing compared to my 12s and 16s.

Jim Watson · November 23, 2002, 09:00 AM

MEC.
A MEC 600 Jr will handle all your .410 needs. New list price is $107 but they are widely discounted and often for sale second hand. Powder and shot consumption for a .410 are, of course, smaller than for other gauges, but you still have to have that primer and wad. And the hulls don't last as long. But reloading will certainly get the cost down in proportion to the price of factory. .410s are high priced because sales are low, compared to 12 and 20.

Dave McC · November 24, 2002, 05:00 AM

Jim nailed it. Primer and wad costs are nigh identical to 12 gauge.

One bennie to rolling your own for the 410. Use of trap grade shot will definitely give you superior patterns to the store stuff. And the 410 can definitely use all the help it can get.

HTH....

K80Geoff · November 24, 2002, 07:28 AM

AH, but a 28 will give superior patterns and cleaner kills!

Just as pleasant to shoot as the 410, and the ammo cost about the same.

28 hulls are much easier to reload.

9mmMike · November 24, 2002, 11:38 AM

Ha! At least Geoff didn't say "idiot stick". LOL I just love that one! LOL

Mike

sm · November 24, 2002, 12:25 PM

Ditto the Mec
the old Win, 42 pump is a hoot if you can find one
Ditto on the 28 ga...real treat. IF you can find a 1100 or 870 in 28 ga, your gonna have fun. Ammo a bit pricey, but something about rolling your own and busting clays , birds, small game...

OkieCruffler · November 24, 2002, 04:53 PM

I can't argue that the 28 gives better patterns, but the 311 never came in 28 and I'm kinda fond with that model. I'm sure that the 28 gives cleaner kills too, but since I don't hunt, except for the vermin trying to overrun my yard, that doesn't enter into it. I don't mind watching the clays suffer abit.

12-34hom · November 24, 2002, 04:53 PM

I've shot 410 guage scatterguns for almost 40 years.

The next shotgun i buy will be a model 42 Winchester.

Low noise and recoil make it excellent for small game hunting.

12=34hom.

sm · November 24, 2002, 11:35 PM

Oh I understand the FUN, bunch of us used to dove hunt with single shot 410's--that was the only thing allowed on this fun hunt--what a hoot!

I echo the Win mod 42.
311
I think Bakil(sp?) does one, only thing I've actually held and shot is their bounty hunter one bbl has the 45-70 tube--whoa nellie!

Edited: try this site

http://www.lisc.net/p618.htm#eaa626

November 23, 2002, 08:24 AM	#1
OkieCruffler Senior Member Join Date: July 9, 2001 Location: Denison Texas on the banks of Texhoma Posts: 1,556	Caught the .410 bug The Wife and myself have caught the .410 bug. There's something very satisfying about breaking clays with that 11/16oz of shot. So far we only have an old Sears and Roebuck singleshot, but I've got my eyes out for a Steven's 311 and The Wife thinks she wants a semi-auto. But we have found that these things are expensive to shoot. And the only shotshell loader I have is a Lee Loadall, and you can't reload .410 in it. So what is a good, cheap alternative? Seems to me that you should be able to reload .410 for next to nothing compared to my 12s and 16s. __________________ John A. Monroe, Never Forgive, Never Forget, Blood Pays Blood

November 24, 2002, 05:00 AM	#3
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	Jim nailed it. Primer and wad costs are nigh identical to 12 gauge. One bennie to rolling your own for the 410. Use of trap grade shot will definitely give you superior patterns to the store stuff. And the 410 can definitely use all the help it can get. HTH.... Last edited by Dave McC; November 24, 2002 at 05:42 AM.

November 24, 2002, 07:28 AM	#4
K80Geoff Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 1998 Location: NE Pennsylvania Posts: 3,639	AH, but a 28 will give superior patterns and cleaner kills! Just as pleasant to shoot as the 410, and the ammo cost about the same. 28 hulls are much easier to reload. __________________ I am no longer a member of this forum. Bye!

November 24, 2002, 11:38 AM	#5
9mmMike Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2000 Location: SE PA Posts: 1,049	Ha! At least Geoff didn't say "idiot stick". LOL I just love that one! LOL Mike __________________ "Freedom is not free" Visit TheRallyPoint.org TheRallyPoint at LRGC- Saturday August 26th IF YOU LIVE IN PA AND DID NOT VOTE, YOU DESERVE TO LOSE YOUR GUNS!

November 24, 2002, 12:25 PM	#6
sm Senior Member Join Date: February 5, 2002 Posts: 1,819	Ditto the Mec the old Win, 42 pump is a hoot if you can find one Ditto on the 28 ga...real treat. IF you can find a 1100 or 870 in 28 ga, your gonna have fun. Ammo a bit pricey, but something about rolling your own and busting clays , birds, small game... __________________ Use Enough Gun TFL Alumni

November 23, 2002, 09:00 AM	#2
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,537	MEC. A MEC 600 Jr will handle all your .410 needs. New list price is $107 but they are widely discounted and often for sale second hand. Powder and shot consumption for a .410 are, of course, smaller than for other gauges, but you still have to have that primer and wad. And the hulls don't last as long. But reloading will certainly get the cost down in proportion to the price of factory. .410s are high priced because sales are low, compared to 12 and 20.

November 24, 2002, 04:53 PM	#7
OkieCruffler Senior Member Join Date: July 9, 2001 Location: Denison Texas on the banks of Texhoma Posts: 1,556	I can't argue that the 28 gives better patterns, but the 311 never came in 28 and I'm kinda fond with that model. I'm sure that the 28 gives cleaner kills too, but since I don't hunt, except for the vermin trying to overrun my yard, that doesn't enter into it. I don't mind watching the clays suffer abit. __________________ John A. Monroe, Never Forgive, Never Forget, Blood Pays Blood

November 24, 2002, 04:53 PM	#8
12-34hom Senior Member Join Date: June 8, 1999 Location: Iowa - northeastern Posts: 1,810	410 guage. I've shot 410 guage scatterguns for almost 40 years. The next shotgun i buy will be a model 42 Winchester. Low noise and recoil make it excellent for small game hunting. 12=34hom. __________________ This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, it is my life. I must master itas i master my life.Without me my rifle is useless, without my rifle i am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I Will. Before God i swear this creed. My rifle and myself are defenders of my country. We are masters of our enemy. We are saviours of my life. So be it until there is no enemy, but peace. Amen.

November 24, 2002, 11:35 PM	#9
sm Senior Member Join Date: February 5, 2002 Posts: 1,819	Oh I understand the FUN, bunch of us used to dove hunt with single shot 410's--that was the only thing allowed on this fun hunt--what a hoot! I echo the Win mod 42. 311 I think Bakil(sp?) does one, only thing I've actually held and shot is their bounty hunter one bbl has the 45-70 tube--whoa nellie! Edited: try this site http://www.lisc.net/p618.htm#eaa626 __________________ Use Enough Gun TFL Alumni