March 5, 2013, 05:12 PM | #1 |
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Do you think they will stop producing 357sig? I don't want to buy a dying caliber.
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Why not just buy a .40 S&W with an interchangeable barrel you can swap for a .357 sig barrel?
That way you buy a .40, and you only have to worry about your .357 barrel going out of date. |
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As long as it can produce 650+ FT/LBS of energy out of a G31 barrel I don't think it's going anywhere. Lots of folks love power
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March 5, 2013, 07:22 PM | #4 |
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Maybe in the long-term but not likely anytime soon. Lots of government agencies are using it and it seems to be popular enough.
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I know of a few agencies here in New Jersey that currently carry this round. I believe a few federal agencies including the United States Secret Service and Air Marshalls use this round. I have also read that multiple state police agencies and highway patrols use this round including Delaware, Rhode Island, Virginia, Montana, and North Caroline. As long as the federal government, state, and local law enforcement agencies continue to use it, it will still be around. Supply and demand, plain and simple.
If you are worried, do what alex suggested and buy a 40 that you can swap barrels with. I have a sig p226 and It is simple to switch the 40 barrel/slide out with a .357. It even takes the same mags (they are stamped as both) |
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The Sig isn't going away anytime soon.
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March 5, 2013, 10:05 PM | #7 |
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I hope not.I think it is a great round. I have a Sig, and a Glock.I also have the .40 barrels to go with them.
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Once fired brass is cheap, 9mm/.38 super bullets are cheap, once the run on primers are over small pistol primers are cheap.
Reloading and shooting 357sig is cheap, but it is so much fun. |
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It's still an issued round for some local, state and federal LEOs. Good idea to buy 40S&W and then get a 357 sig barrel idea. I have the same setup for my glock.
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March 8, 2013, 12:58 AM | #11 |
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Texas highway patrol and lots of texas PDs use it.
It's a stout round, but to snappy for my liking. |
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For what it's worth, I had a friend in the gun industry tell me that you should buy a 40S&W and then a 357 sig barrel, not the other way around. He claimed better accuracy if you start with a 40 and then go to 357 sig. I mentioned it on this forum before and several people said they started with a 357 sig and then went to 40S&W and they didn't have any accuracy problems.
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My agency is looking real hard at buying new service weapons; the .357 Sig is the round they want. Last I looked, the Highway Patrol here in N.C. uses that caliber as well. My only caveats: Ammo is pretty hard to find around here [at least, it is at Wal Mart], and last...it's not a .45. But hey, if they issue it, I'll tote it.
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The sig is very common in certain areas. Here in Texas I find a lot of it at the range. I would not say it is dying by any stretch.
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From what I understand the FBI did not properly take into account the women agent factor. That does not mean the entire thing was a "flop." There is no evidence to support your claim that the round is a bad choice. Do you have any idea of the criteria for the choice? There's probably more to it than we know, and I am sure they had more good reasons to choose it over anything else they could have. |
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Some people hold far too much faith in our Government and Government Agencies. Just because the Federal Air Marshals picked the .357sig does not make it a good choice or even the best choice for it's intended use. Think what you want, but I think the .357sig for use on an airplane by Air Marshals is a foolish choice. |
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Heavier 158 gr loads and soft point 125s were known to overpenitrate. Hence the .357 Sig uses 125gr JHP so it would do the same thing as the 125gr Magnum load. And that ability to stop inside an opponent and still deliver very good stopping power was why the Air Marshals use the .357 Sig. Massad Ayoob himself as wrote that the Texas DPS are quite happy with the performance of the .357 Sig cartridge in actual shootings. http://books.google.com/books?id=AD5...action&f=false Deaf
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I had a .357 conversion barrel for my Glock 23 (.40).
It shot great, very snappy (Might be abit too much for some), was VERY fast, shot at a bullet-proof vest, it was the only round that fully penetrated, the .40 and .45 only tore some of the Kevlar, but didn't fully penetrate. The vest was strapped onto a tree stump (To semi-simulate a real body), and used XTP reloads on all 3x pistols. Anyways, I ended up selling mine, I just prefer my .40 Also to reload the .357 Sig, can be quite a pain. You gotta lube, since they don't have carbide dies for necked brass, and just a real pain to make them cycle near-perfect, whereas my .40 barrel, will eat up everything, hence it being a straight-neck round. Plus IF you're not a reloader or get the ammo free, you'll pay out the butt. I highly suggest you reload if you get a .357 Sig, then it's the same cost as .40, 9mm, etc basically. Just abit harder to find brass, esp laying at the range. Overall, I'd say get a 40, it does me great. Has the perfect power ratio, and easy to find. |
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