9mm data using Clays?

Nephilim-777 · October 23, 2006, 03:15 PM

I am down to less than 2 lbs of Titegroup and I want to try out some Clays in the 9mm. I am not finding much load data in my manuals with this combination. One forum search yielded 3.6gr of Clays under a 115gr FMJ load. Hodgon has 2.9gr-3.3gr with a 125gr LCN and 3.5gr-3.7gr with 125gr SIE FMJ (whatever that is) on their website. The starting and maximum window is very narrow and has me a little concerned about simply guessing because no OAL's were listed.

I have the following bullets in inventory:
Remmington 124gr JHP's
Hornady 124gr TMJ's (currently my primary)
Hornady 147gr XTP's (may be a no go w/ Clays)

I just need a good, safe target load with OAL's. No PF's required.

kart racer · October 24, 2006, 08:43 PM

Only info I have is,3.1-3.6 clays for 125gr jhp,oal 1.075.130gr fmj,2.5-3.6 clays,oal 1.160.this is from lymans.I've loaded a bunch of 124 gr fmj zero bullets at 1.115 oal with 3.1-3.6 with no problems.Hodgon only shows 3.7 as the max with 125gr fmj at oal 1.090.
Try some power pistol or unique,it's my favorites in 9mm.

HSMITH · October 25, 2006, 08:10 AM

1.135", start at 3.4 with the 124's. Same OAL with the 147's, start at 2.8 and work up. Don't go over 3.8 with the 124's, and don't go over 3.2 with the 147's.

I have shot plenty of these loads with no problems at all. Hodgdon data has VERY short OAL's, I load a bit longer and the max charge will increase accordingly.

As always check your manuals, start low and be safe.

Nephilim-777 · October 25, 2006, 09:36 AM

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Try some power pistol or unique,it's my favorites in 9mm.

I have been trying to get some Power Pistol, but my local suppler doesn't have any in stock. I believe I've read that unique doesn't meter well in an auto-disk powder drop. I could be wrong on that one.

Nephilim-777 · October 25, 2006, 09:37 AM

Thanks for the load data guys. This information at least gives me a starting point.

rwilson452 · October 25, 2006, 10:28 AM

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I am down to less than 2 lbs of Titegroup and I want to try out some Clays in the 9mm. I am not finding much load data in my manuals with this combination. One forum search yielded 3.6gr of Clays under a 115gr FMJ load. Hodgon has 2.9gr-3.3gr with a 125gr LCN and 3.5gr-3.7gr with 125gr SIE FMJ (whatever that is) on their website. The starting and maximum window is very narrow and has me a little concerned about simply guessing because no OAL's were listed.

JDG · October 25, 2006, 07:32 PM

I load 115gr win fmj hollow base bullets, over 3.6gr clays, 1.155oal, gives me 1050 on the chrono. Hodgdon list 3.7 as max, with a 125gr fmj. I load to factory ammo oal, or really close.

October 23, 2006, 03:15 PM	#1
Nephilim-777 Member Join Date: October 10, 2006 Location: A nation in distress Posts: 79	9mm data using Clays? I am down to less than 2 lbs of Titegroup and I want to try out some Clays in the 9mm. I am not finding much load data in my manuals with this combination. One forum search yielded 3.6gr of Clays under a 115gr FMJ load. Hodgon has 2.9gr-3.3gr with a 125gr LCN and 3.5gr-3.7gr with 125gr SIE FMJ (whatever that is) on their website. The starting and maximum window is very narrow and has me a little concerned about simply guessing because no OAL's were listed. I have the following bullets in inventory: Remmington 124gr JHP's Hornady 124gr TMJ's (currently my primary) Hornady 147gr XTP's (may be a no go w/ Clays) I just need a good, safe target load with OAL's. No PF's required.

October 25, 2006, 10:28 AM	#6
rwilson452 Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2004 Location: Tioga co. PA Posts: 2,647	Fyi Sie Fmj SIE FMJ Sierra Full Metal Jacket SIE F M J I am down to less than 2 lbs of Titegroup and I want to try out some Clays in the 9mm. I am not finding much load data in my manuals with this combination. One forum search yielded 3.6gr of Clays under a 115gr FMJ load. Hodgon has 2.9gr-3.3gr with a 125gr LCN and 3.5gr-3.7gr with 125gr SIE FMJ (whatever that is) on their website. The starting and maximum window is very narrow and has me a little concerned about simply guessing because no OAL's were listed.

October 24, 2006, 08:43 PM	#2
kart racer Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2005 Posts: 175	Only info I have is,3.1-3.6 clays for 125gr jhp,oal 1.075.130gr fmj,2.5-3.6 clays,oal 1.160.this is from lymans.I've loaded a bunch of 124 gr fmj zero bullets at 1.115 oal with 3.1-3.6 with no problems.Hodgon only shows 3.7 as the max with 125gr fmj at oal 1.090. Try some power pistol or unique,it's my favorites in 9mm.

October 25, 2006, 08:10 AM	#3
HSMITH Senior Member Join Date: June 21, 2002 Posts: 2,019	1.135", start at 3.4 with the 124's. Same OAL with the 147's, start at 2.8 and work up. Don't go over 3.8 with the 124's, and don't go over 3.2 with the 147's. I have shot plenty of these loads with no problems at all. Hodgdon data has VERY short OAL's, I load a bit longer and the max charge will increase accordingly. As always check your manuals, start low and be safe.

October 25, 2006, 09:37 AM	#5
Nephilim-777 Member Join Date: October 10, 2006 Location: A nation in distress Posts: 79	Thanks for the load data guys. This information at least gives me a starting point.

October 25, 2006, 07:32 PM	#7
JDG Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2005 Location: West Michigan Posts: 673	I load 115gr win fmj hollow base bullets, over 3.6gr clays, 1.155oal, gives me 1050 on the chrono. Hodgdon list 3.7 as max, with a 125gr fmj. I load to factory ammo oal, or really close.