Any Mauser 1908 owners around?

surg_res · September 22, 2008, 08:10 PM

I just added a Brazilian contract DWM 1908 to my Mauser collection today. It is a beautiful, matching rifle and in excellent 90%+ shape. I was surprised to see that the two front barrel bands are not blued (nor do they appear to have ever been blued) like they are in most of my other export mausers (i.e. 1909, etc). Also, unlike similar DWM rifles, I noticed that the cleaning rod is not numbered but has the matching "beta" proof mark. The rifle is non-import stamped and appears overall un-tampered.

Wondering if the bands are original in finish, I searched for pics online and in my books but came up pretty empty-handed. Most parts in the pics look to have been reblued or are stainless with a fair amount of patina; thus, looking blue.

Just interested to see if anyone has any ideas about this. Let me know if you want pics of my new gun.

Tamara · September 23, 2008, 05:51 AM

All the pictures of Brazilian '08s in both Ball and Olson show blued/dark barrel bands.

I, too, have an '08, but it's an Itajuba-manufactured '08/34. Because who doesn't want a Mauser 98 chambered in .30-'06?

How shiny are the bands? Could the rifle have possibly been used for parade functions and the bluing polished off the bands to add a little more snap & pop during formations?

surg_res · September 23, 2008, 05:18 PM

I looked in my edition of Ball's book and the pics aren't the best (too dark to clearly see the bands). My guess is that it is original finish, as I can't imagine that they would have stripped the underside as well. Many pics on the net with blued parts were the roughed-up military reworks, many of which were reblued--including the receivers. The remainder of blueing on this rifle appears original, as it has that unmistakable DWM softness with slight incandescence.

I've also since noticed that the rifle has one of two stock cartouches but generally not both.

Pics to follow.

surg_res · September 23, 2008, 05:45 PM

Bill DeShivs · September 23, 2008, 08:22 PM

The parts are not stainless. The gun is too old for stainless to have been used. They appear to have either never been blued, or the bluing stripped. 20 seconds in hydrochloric acid will accomplish this. I'm no Mauser expert, so I can't comment on originality.
I would use NevrDull wadding to clean it up. It will take some elbow grease.

Tamara · September 23, 2008, 10:58 PM

Pretty rifle!

Quote:

Originally Posted by surg_res

I looked in my edition of Ball's book and the pics aren't the best (too dark to clearly see the bands).

What edition do you have? The 4th ed. has a pretty good color pic of a DWM 1908, with the receiver clearly in the white and blued barrel, bands, and ejector assembly.

I wonder if mine is refinished or not? It's been a while since I looked at it...

tokarev762 · September 23, 2008, 11:24 PM

Indeed a nice looking rifle you have there.

My 1909 mauser is an Argie and the bands on it are blued. Only the receiver and bolt are in the white. It's amazing how those and the '96 Swede's can be that way without tarnishing after all of these years. I've had to explain to many people that the receivers are not stainless.

HiBC · September 24, 2008, 01:41 AM

What is fun about the Brazilians is they are a large ring short action.Short like a Yugo or Mexican.
Nice military specimen,not to chop,but if it was just an action,they are a sweet Mauser.

surg_res · September 24, 2008, 04:45 AM

That's interesting that stainless steel came along later: I never picked up on that. That explains why people simply call this "white" I suppose (and why it stains).

So now I'm wondering why the bands, stock disc, and sling rings have been stripped as well. Who knows. 100 years is a long time on Earth, in the hands of man, for any rifle. Thanks for all of the comments.

September 22, 2008, 08:10 PM	#1
surg_res Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2005 Location: Texas, 5th GEN! Posts: 621	Any Mauser 1908 owners around? I just added a Brazilian contract DWM 1908 to my Mauser collection today. It is a beautiful, matching rifle and in excellent 90%+ shape. I was surprised to see that the two front barrel bands are not blued (nor do they appear to have ever been blued) like they are in most of my other export mausers (i.e. 1909, etc). Also, unlike similar DWM rifles, I noticed that the cleaning rod is not numbered but has the matching "beta" proof mark. The rifle is non-import stamped and appears overall un-tampered. Wondering if the bands are original in finish, I searched for pics online and in my books but came up pretty empty-handed. Most parts in the pics look to have been reblued or are stainless with a fair amount of patina; thus, looking blue. Just interested to see if anyone has any ideas about this. Let me know if you want pics of my new gun. __________________ ----

September 23, 2008, 05:51 AM	#2
Tamara Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,002	Nice find! All the pictures of Brazilian '08s in both Ball and Olson show blued/dark barrel bands. I, too, have an '08, but it's an Itajuba-manufactured '08/34. Because who doesn't want a Mauser 98 chambered in .30-'06? How shiny are the bands? Could the rifle have possibly been used for parade functions and the bluing polished off the bands to add a little more snap & pop during formations? __________________ MOLON LABE! 2% Unobtainium, 98% Hypetanium. The Arms Room: An Online Museum.

September 23, 2008, 05:18 PM	#3
surg_res Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2005 Location: Texas, 5th GEN! Posts: 621	I looked in my edition of Ball's book and the pics aren't the best (too dark to clearly see the bands). My guess is that it is original finish, as I can't imagine that they would have stripped the underside as well. Many pics on the net with blued parts were the roughed-up military reworks, many of which were reblued--including the receivers. The remainder of blueing on this rifle appears original, as it has that unmistakable DWM softness with slight incandescence. I've also since noticed that the rifle has one of two stock cartouches but generally not both. Pics to follow. __________________ ---- Last edited by surg_res; September 23, 2008 at 06:03 PM.

September 23, 2008, 05:45 PM	#4
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September 23, 2008, 08:22 PM	#5
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,980	The parts are not stainless. The gun is too old for stainless to have been used. They appear to have either never been blued, or the bluing stripped. 20 seconds in hydrochloric acid will accomplish this. I'm no Mauser expert, so I can't comment on originality. I would use NevrDull wadding to clean it up. It will take some elbow grease. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

September 23, 2008, 11:24 PM	#7
tokarev762 Member Join Date: September 15, 2008 Location: Middle TN Posts: 60	Indeed a nice looking rifle you have there. My 1909 mauser is an Argie and the bands on it are blued. Only the receiver and bolt are in the white. It's amazing how those and the '96 Swede's can be that way without tarnishing after all of these years. I've had to explain to many people that the receivers are not stainless.

September 24, 2008, 01:41 AM	#8
HiBC Senior Member Join Date: November 13, 2006 Posts: 8,283	What is fun about the Brazilians is they are a large ring short action.Short like a Yugo or Mexican. Nice military specimen,not to chop,but if it was just an action,they are a sweet Mauser.

September 24, 2008, 04:45 AM	#9
surg_res Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2005 Location: Texas, 5th GEN! Posts: 621	That's interesting that stainless steel came along later: I never picked up on that. That explains why people simply call this "white" I suppose (and why it stains). So now I'm wondering why the bands, stock disc, and sling rings have been stripped as well. Who knows. 100 years is a long time on Earth, in the hands of man, for any rifle. Thanks for all of the comments. __________________ ----

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