Glock 28/25 U.S. sale ban

riggins_83 · October 3, 2009, 09:34 PM

I know they're not available in the U.S. (Glock .380, either model). I'm curious what import requirements were not met by this gun.. I ready they don't " lack sufficient BATF import points." Any idea what those are specifically?

ATW525 · October 3, 2009, 09:51 PM

Specifically, the caliber is too small. Glocks barely make enough points as it is. All of them are shipped into this county with adjustable sights (worth more points than fixed sights) which are switched out after they get here. The compact and subcompact models also have serrated triggers (counted as target triggers and worth more points) to make up for points lost due to their short barrels. There's just not any more tricks left that Glock can use to make up for the points lost due to the small caliber of the Glock 25 and 28.

**JohnKSa** · October 3, 2009, 09:55 PM

There is no ban on the sale or possession, ONLY on the import.

Here's a breakdown of the point system.

http://www.glockfaq.com/content.aspx...el_Info#points

gyvel · October 4, 2009, 12:44 AM

Yet another reason to relegate BATFE back to their original purpose: To collect taxes on booze, cigarettes and guns and nothing else.

Dave T · October 4, 2009, 11:54 AM

You're asking for a rational explanation for an irrational, bureaucratic decision. Ain't gonna happen! (smile)

Dave

45_Shooter · October 4, 2009, 05:05 PM

At least it's not much of a loss anyhow. Why would you want a .380 that's the same size and capacity as a 9x19?

keebz · October 4, 2009, 05:37 PM

or a .40 or a .357 sig

gc70 · October 4, 2009, 05:47 PM

With the current .380 craze, Glock has an incentive to build them here. Has anyone posted pictures of the US prototypes?

Sevens · October 4, 2009, 09:18 PM

I've said that before, and recently.

It doesn't matter if it doesn't make a heap of sense.

If it says GLOCK and it's chambered in .380, it would be a cash cow. Seriously.

**JohnKSa** · October 5, 2009, 12:51 AM

Glock might eventually build them here, but both the 25 & 28 are pretty large as far as .380 pistols go. The current .380 craze is fueled primarily by the availability of relatively low-cost and very tiny .380 pistols. I would think that the Glock .380 pistols (in their current configurations) would be slow sellers.

Alleykat · October 5, 2009, 07:57 AM

Glock could legally import complete .380 uppers, which would, of course, fit nicely on their 9mm counterpart lowers. However, I guess they won't import just uppers, in order not to urinate-off those idiots @ the BATFE.

October 3, 2009, 09:34 PM	#1
riggins_83 Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2009 Location: Wherever I may roam Posts: 1,505	Glock 28/25 U.S. sale ban I know they're not available in the U.S. (Glock .380, either model). I'm curious what import requirements were not met by this gun.. I ready they don't " lack sufficient BATF import points." Any idea what those are specifically? __________________ l've heard police work is dangerous. Yes, that's why l carry a big gun. Couldn't it go off accidentally? l used to have that problem. What did you do about it? l just think about baseball. -Leslie Nielsen

October 3, 2009, 09:55 PM	#3
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,967	There is no ban on the sale or possession, ONLY on the import. Here's a breakdown of the point system. http://www.glockfaq.com/content.aspx...el_Info#points __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

October 4, 2009, 12:44 AM	#4
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,172	Yet another reason to relegate BATFE back to their original purpose: To collect taxes on booze, cigarettes and guns and nothing else. Last edited by gyvel; October 5, 2009 at 01:59 AM.

October 4, 2009, 11:54 AM	#5
Dave T Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2000 Location: Mesa, Arizona Posts: 1,456	You're asking for a rational explanation for an irrational, bureaucratic decision. Ain't gonna happen! (smile) Dave __________________ RSVN '69-'71 PCSD Ret

October 4, 2009, 05:05 PM	#6
45_Shooter Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2008 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,050	At least it's not much of a loss anyhow. Why would you want a .380 that's the same size and capacity as a 9x19? __________________ "You have the rest of your life to solve your problems. How long you live depends on how well you do it." -Clint Smith

October 3, 2009, 09:51 PM	#2
ATW525 Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2005 Location: Concord, NH Posts: 2,723	Specifically, the caliber is too small. Glocks barely make enough points as it is. All of them are shipped into this county with adjustable sights (worth more points than fixed sights) which are switched out after they get here. The compact and subcompact models also have serrated triggers (counted as target triggers and worth more points) to make up for points lost due to their short barrels. There's just not any more tricks left that Glock can use to make up for the points lost due to the small caliber of the Glock 25 and 28.

October 4, 2009, 05:37 PM	#7
keebz Member Join Date: September 29, 2007 Posts: 34	or a .40 or a .357 sig

October 4, 2009, 05:47 PM	#8
gc70 Senior Member Join Date: May 24, 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,903	With the current .380 craze, Glock has an incentive to build them here. Has anyone posted pictures of the US prototypes?

October 4, 2009, 09:18 PM	#9
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,755	I've said that before, and recently. It doesn't matter if it doesn't make a heap of sense. If it says GLOCK and it's chambered in .380, it would be a cash cow. Seriously. __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

October 5, 2009, 12:51 AM	#10
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,967	Glock might eventually build them here, but both the 25 & 28 are pretty large as far as .380 pistols go. The current .380 craze is fueled primarily by the availability of relatively low-cost and very tiny .380 pistols. I would think that the Glock .380 pistols (in their current configurations) would be slow sellers. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

October 5, 2009, 07:57 AM	#11
Alleykat Junior member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 3,668	Glock could legally import complete .380 uppers, which would, of course, fit nicely on their 9mm counterpart lowers. However, I guess they won't import just uppers, in order not to urinate-off those idiots @ the BATFE.

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