Saiga 410 slug reloading- tips wanted

chrishughessas · May 29, 2010, 03:21 PM

Hi

i have a saiga 410 semi auto and want to reload slugs( i have 975 rb mould )
any advice would be helpfull.
i have mag tech 2 1/2 inch brass,also nitro 400 3 inch full cases
and have 9.3 x 74r shells,which i need to blow walls straight.
what is cream of wheat to expand cases is rifle.
any help would be helpfull and any tips.
cheers for reading and look forward to your advice.

IllinoisCoyoteHunter · May 29, 2010, 03:48 PM

My advice would be to look for PUBLISHED loads. Not to sound like a jerk, but shotshell reloading is NOT like metallic reloading. You follow shotshell recipes word for word. Working up loads in shotshell is flat out foolish...especially if you are new to it. You must find a published load with the components you have. Remmeber that not all hulls/brass, wads, primers, etc are not the same in shotshell reloading. It is a completely different world than metallic. Even substituting ONE component can affect pressure drastically. Good luck, and as they say in England....cheers?!

chrishughessas · May 29, 2010, 03:55 PM

Hi

I have years of experience at metalic reloading and 3 years of reloading 12 bore, i just wondered if fellow saiga 410 owners or 410 owners had any tips.
cheers chris

dmazur · May 29, 2010, 06:38 PM

You might try emailing this outfit -

http://www.hoeningbigboresouth.com/H...Slug_Ammo.html

These folks have definitely pushed the envelope as far as what you can do with a .410. However, I don't think what they are making is compatible with a Saiga. They are selling special barrels for it.

However, the owners may have some .410 reloading experience they would be willing to share, involving brass cartridge reloading and slugs.

chrishughessas · May 30, 2010, 11:24 AM

Hi.
i did email this firm to try and get some brass and they could not sent me some to england.but i will try the link and see if they have brass reloading data for 410.
thankyou very much for taking time to answer
i will let you know what i get
cheers chris

zippy13 · May 30, 2010, 11:56 AM

Cream of Wheat is a hot breakfast cereal or porridge invented in 1893 by wheat millers in Grand Forks, North Dakota. Since the trade name may not be recognized in the UK, do you have polenta available in your area?

I've been loading .410s for 35+ years; but, no brass and only with #9 shot. Something to keep in mind when loading the little hulls: With a tight fitting shot cup you may be compressing the air above the powder and it may require a second stroke to seat the wad. It's a bit of bother when the air pressure backs out the wad and spills some shot.

May 29, 2010, 03:21 PM	#1
chrishughessas Junior member Join Date: July 31, 2009 Location: yorkshire england Posts: 43	Saiga 410 slug reloading- tips wanted Hi i have a saiga 410 semi auto and want to reload slugs( i have 975 rb mould ) any advice would be helpfull. i have mag tech 2 1/2 inch brass,also nitro 400 3 inch full cases and have 9.3 x 74r shells,which i need to blow walls straight. what is cream of wheat to expand cases is rifle. any help would be helpfull and any tips. cheers for reading and look forward to your advice.

May 29, 2010, 03:48 PM	#2
IllinoisCoyoteHunter Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2008 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 1,527	My advice would be to look for PUBLISHED loads. Not to sound like a jerk, but shotshell reloading is NOT like metallic reloading. You follow shotshell recipes word for word. Working up loads in shotshell is flat out foolish...especially if you are new to it. You must find a published load with the components you have. Remmeber that not all hulls/brass, wads, primers, etc are not the same in shotshell reloading. It is a completely different world than metallic. Even substituting ONE component can affect pressure drastically. Good luck, and as they say in England....cheers?! __________________ ~~IllinoisCoyoteHunter~~ ~NRA LIFE MEMBER~ ~NRA CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR~

May 29, 2010, 03:55 PM	#3
chrishughessas Junior member Join Date: July 31, 2009 Location: yorkshire england Posts: 43	Hi thanks Hi I have years of experience at metalic reloading and 3 years of reloading 12 bore, i just wondered if fellow saiga 410 owners or 410 owners had any tips. cheers chris

May 29, 2010, 06:38 PM	#4
dmazur Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2007 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,310	You might try emailing this outfit - http://www.hoeningbigboresouth.com/H...Slug_Ammo.html These folks have definitely pushed the envelope as far as what you can do with a .410. However, I don't think what they are making is compatible with a Saiga. They are selling special barrels for it. However, the owners may have some .410 reloading experience they would be willing to share, involving brass cartridge reloading and slugs. __________________ .30-06 Springfield: 100 yrs + and still going strong

May 30, 2010, 11:24 AM	#5
chrishughessas Junior member Join Date: July 31, 2009 Location: yorkshire england Posts: 43	Re answer Hi. i did email this firm to try and get some brass and they could not sent me some to england.but i will try the link and see if they have brass reloading data for 410. thankyou very much for taking time to answer i will let you know what i get cheers chris

May 30, 2010, 11:56 AM	#6
zippy13 Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,442	Cream of Wheat is a hot breakfast cereal or porridge invented in 1893 by wheat millers in Grand Forks, North Dakota. Since the trade name may not be recognized in the UK, do you have polenta available in your area? I've been loading .410s for 35+ years; but, no brass and only with #9 shot. Something to keep in mind when loading the little hulls: With a tight fitting shot cup you may be compressing the air above the powder and it may require a second stroke to seat the wad. It's a bit of bother when the air pressure backs out the wad and spills some shot.