What Shotgun is this G4S Security Officer in Bosnia Holding? - Photo

LanceOregon · October 12, 2009, 03:12 PM

Here is a G4S Security Officer working in Bosnia. What shotgun is he holding?

He does not appear to be very happy about having his photo taken.

oneounceload · October 12, 2009, 03:14 PM

Maybe he's remembering trying to shoot that PGO and not liking it.....

shooter mcgavin · October 12, 2009, 03:17 PM

im guessing mossberg

rantingredneck · October 12, 2009, 03:17 PM

It's a Mossberg.

A 590 or 500 variant with the 590 barrel/magazine system.

Based on the orientation of the safety, trigger group pin and shell elevator hooks it's definitely a Mossberg though.

rantingredneck · October 12, 2009, 03:18 PM

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Maybe he's remembering trying to shoot that PGO and not liking it.....
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Or he's thinking, "They give me this beat up shotgun with the rear sling point tied to the triggerguard, I'll be lucky if I don't shoot myself with it".

TxGun · October 12, 2009, 04:01 PM

He's thinking he's so dang skinny that he'd better give the 12 gauge to someone else and get himself a .410.

jmr40 · October 12, 2009, 04:58 PM

The carry strap is attached to the triggerguard

Lee Lapin · October 12, 2009, 08:44 PM

http://www.g4s.com/

Didn't know they existed previously. From the website:

G4S...

has operations in over 110 countries
was formed in 2004 from the merger between Securicor plc and Group 4 Falck A/S’s security business.
is listed on the London Stock Exchange (stock symbol: GFS) with a secondary listing in Copenhagen.
is the largest employer quoted on the London Stock Exchange, with over 585,000 employees
turnover from continuing operations for the year from January - December 2008 was £5,942.9 million (2007: £4,868.4m). PBITA for the same period was up 23% to £416.4 million (2007: £338.7m)
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Website didn't mention that they supply weapons of dubious heritage configured in unsafe ways to their employees though. But... they're British. Whatta they know about weapons?

lpl

LanceOregon · October 12, 2009, 09:53 PM

Yes, G4S Security is one of the biggest corporations in the world when it comes to employees.

They even have a subsidiary here in the USA now too. The US Border Patrol is now using them to transport illegal aliens.

Governments and other institutions all around the world are now using G4S for security matters, rather than go to the expense of hiring their own people.

Could be a scary prospect, I suppose. The company is headquartered in Denmark. Here is a photo of their CEO.

He wears a pink shirt and tie, so I think that we can trust him. No bad guy would ever wear pink.

the rifleer · October 12, 2009, 10:35 PM

that's the military's new rootie tootie aim and shootey....

on a more serious note, i agree, it looks like a mossberg.

12GaugeLosAngeles · October 12, 2009, 10:47 PM

It's a 500 Marine Coat with a fading barrel... very simple, what kind of noob question is that?

cat9x · October 13, 2009, 09:33 AM

he really takes pride in his hair grooming you gotta admit, nice parting job.

balazona · October 13, 2009, 10:41 AM

Guys,
this is a local Darra made cheap clone of Mossberg 590 shotgun.
Cheers

rantingredneck · October 13, 2009, 01:13 PM

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... very simple, what kind of noob question is that?

Do you really think that part was necessary?

LanceOregon · October 13, 2009, 02:10 PM

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Guys,
this is a local Darra made cheap clone of Mossberg 590 shotgun.
Cheers

Good catch. Although he is working in Bosnia, this man indeed is a Pakistani.

G4S hires people from all over the world.

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Jseime · October 13, 2009, 03:59 PM

Mossberg or a knockoff thereof for sure, doesnt look terribly reliable, and if I were in charge of protecting something I would never ever use a PG shotgun. Give me a full stock and a 28 inch barrel and Ill get surgical on your A$$ haha.

nitetrane98 · October 13, 2009, 04:39 PM

Never underestimate a man with a PG 12 ga shotgun and a turquoise pinky ring.

litework · October 13, 2009, 09:09 PM

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G4S hires people from all over the world.

...and makes them wear ridiculously oversized shirts. There's virtually no transition from belt buckle to shirt pockets.

Sixer · October 14, 2009, 03:41 AM

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It's a 500 Marine Coat with a fading barrel... very simple, what kind of noob question is that?

FAIL.

hogdogs · October 14, 2009, 03:54 AM

I agree that it appears to be a knockoff Mossberg. But what I find hilarious is that instead of a sling he has a super cheap shoulder strap from a freebie duffel bag and instead of swivels he prefers coat hanger wire

NICE... REAL NICEEEEE...
Brent

Mike U. · October 14, 2009, 09:46 PM

Holy crap! Hogdogs is right. Freakin' clothes hanger wire?!

:barf:

rantingredneck · October 15, 2009, 08:23 AM

Keep in mind that even true Mossberg shotguns are not drop safe, and then add this one's questionable heritage and mode of carry..........G4S must not like it's employees very much.....

Willie Lowman · October 15, 2009, 08:58 AM

Show some respect to your betters! That's Gecko45 in his new security posting.

Not a shotgun either, but a helical fed 5.7mm submachinegun made to look like an old mossberg as to not alert the shoppers in the mall of Uzbekistan.

He's a master of disguise isn't he!

omkhan · October 16, 2009, 12:13 AM

I agree with Balazona, the SG is indeed a cheap clone of mossberg made in Darra AdamKhel or Peshawar, available here for 1800-2200 PKR. (1USD=82 PKR i.e. 26.82$).

He & the other private security guards put their life on the line for a mere salary of 70-75$ per month and will be very very lucky if they are able to fire atmost 1 shot from this tool if the need arise

Moreover, they are most likely to have #4 birdshot shells in them.

He is most likely to be guarding some private or "not so a high profile" dwelling. The bank guards that I have seen here are generally a just little better equipped than him. Atleast they have some Turkish or well made Pakistani weapon with 00 buckshot in them.

ADB · October 16, 2009, 02:08 AM

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I agree with Balazona, the SG is indeed a cheap clone of mossberg made in Darra AdamKhel or Peshawar, available here for 1800-2200 PKR. (1USD=82 PKR i.e. 26.82$).

Holeeeeee crap. That's cheap. As much as I'd like to have a $26 shotgun, I shudder to wonder where they cut corners.

You'd think with the money they saved on his gun, they could have gotten the poor guy a uniform that fits right.

October 12, 2009, 03:12 PM	#1
LanceOregon Junior member Join Date: May 10, 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,774	What Shotgun is this G4S Security Officer in Bosnia Holding? - Photo Here is a G4S Security Officer working in Bosnia. What shotgun is he holding? He does not appear to be very happy about having his photo taken.

October 12, 2009, 03:17 PM	#3
shooter mcgavin Member Join Date: September 4, 2009 Posts: 21	im guessing mossberg __________________ Chuck Norris sleeps with a pillow under his gun.

October 12, 2009, 08:44 PM	#8
Lee Lapin Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2004 Location: SE NC Posts: 1,239	http://www.g4s.com/ Didn't know they existed previously. From the website: G4S... has operations in over 110 countries was formed in 2004 from the merger between Securicor plc and Group 4 Falck A/S’s security business. is listed on the London Stock Exchange (stock symbol: GFS) with a secondary listing in Copenhagen. is the largest employer quoted on the London Stock Exchange, with over 585,000 employees turnover from continuing operations for the year from January - December 2008 was £5,942.9 million (2007: £4,868.4m). PBITA for the same period was up 23% to £416.4 million (2007: £338.7m) ---------------------------- Website didn't mention that they supply weapons of dubious heritage configured in unsafe ways to their employees though. But... they're British. Whatta they know about weapons? lpl __________________ Mindset - Skillset - Toolset. In that order! Attitude and skill will get you through times of no gear, better than gear will get you through times of no attitude and no skill.

October 13, 2009, 10:41 AM	#13
balazona Member Join Date: May 5, 2008 Location: Bahrain Posts: 85	Made in Pakistan Guys, this is a local Darra made cheap clone of Mossberg 590 shotgun. Cheers

October 13, 2009, 03:59 PM	#16
Jseime Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,775	Mossberg or a knockoff thereof for sure, doesnt look terribly reliable, and if I were in charge of protecting something I would never ever use a PG shotgun. Give me a full stock and a 28 inch barrel and Ill get surgical on your A$$ haha. __________________ I love the smell of fresh shotgun in the morning.

October 12, 2009, 03:14 PM	#2
oneounceload Junior member Join Date: April 18, 2008 Location: N. Central Florida Posts: 8,518	Maybe he's remembering trying to shoot that PGO and not liking it.....

October 12, 2009, 03:17 PM	#4
rantingredneck Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,728	It's a Mossberg. A 590 or 500 variant with the 590 barrel/magazine system. Based on the orientation of the safety, trigger group pin and shell elevator hooks it's definitely a Mossberg though. __________________ NRA Member NC Hunter's Education Instructor PCCA Member (What's PCCA you ask? <- Check the link)

October 12, 2009, 04:01 PM	#6
TxGun Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Family ranch - Central TX. Posts: 467	He's thinking he's so dang skinny that he'd better give the 12 gauge to someone else and get himself a .410.

October 12, 2009, 04:58 PM	#7
jmr40 Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 10,810	The carry strap is attached to the triggerguard

October 12, 2009, 09:53 PM	#9
LanceOregon Junior member Join Date: May 10, 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,774	Yes, G4S Security is one of the biggest corporations in the world when it comes to employees. They even have a subsidiary here in the USA now too. The US Border Patrol is now using them to transport illegal aliens. Governments and other institutions all around the world are now using G4S for security matters, rather than go to the expense of hiring their own people. Could be a scary prospect, I suppose. The company is headquartered in Denmark. Here is a photo of their CEO. He wears a pink shirt and tie, so I think that we can trust him. No bad guy would ever wear pink.

October 12, 2009, 10:35 PM	#10
the rifleer Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2008 Location: Sunny California Posts: 1,281	that's the military's new rootie tootie aim and shootey.... on a more serious note, i agree, it looks like a mossberg.

October 12, 2009, 10:47 PM	#11
12GaugeLosAngeles Junior member Join Date: October 5, 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 81	It's a 500 Marine Coat with a fading barrel... very simple, what kind of noob question is that?

October 13, 2009, 09:33 AM	#12
cat9x Senior Member Join Date: September 17, 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 212	he really takes pride in his hair grooming you gotta admit, nice parting job.

October 13, 2009, 04:39 PM	#17
nitetrane98 Junior member Join Date: May 23, 2009 Posts: 143	Never underestimate a man with a PG 12 ga shotgun and a turquoise pinky ring.

October 14, 2009, 03:54 AM	#20
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	I agree that it appears to be a knockoff Mossberg. But what I find hilarious is that instead of a sling he has a super cheap shoulder strap from a freebie duffel bag and instead of swivels he prefers coat hanger wire NICE... REAL NICEEEEE... Brent

October 14, 2009, 09:46 PM	#21
Mike U. Senior Member Join Date: April 2, 2007 Location: In Oz, next door to the Lollipop Guild's HQ Posts: 404	Holy crap! Hogdogs is right. Freakin' clothes hanger wire?!:barf: __________________ L'Chayim!

October 15, 2009, 08:23 AM	#22
rantingredneck Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,728	Keep in mind that even true Mossberg shotguns are not drop safe, and then add this one's questionable heritage and mode of carry..........G4S must not like it's employees very much..... __________________ NRA Member NC Hunter's Education Instructor PCCA Member (What's PCCA you ask? <- Check the link)

October 15, 2009, 08:58 AM	#23
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 3,006	Show some respect to your betters! That's Gecko45 in his new security posting. Not a shotgun either, but a helical fed 5.7mm submachinegun made to look like an old mossberg as to not alert the shoppers in the mall of Uzbekistan. He's a master of disguise isn't he! __________________ "9mm has a very long history of being a pointy little bullet moving quickly" --Sevens

October 16, 2009, 12:13 AM	#24
omkhan Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2008 Location: Karachi, Pakistan Posts: 117	I agree with Balazona, the SG is indeed a cheap clone of mossberg made in Darra AdamKhel or Peshawar, available here for 1800-2200 PKR. (1USD=82 PKR i.e. 26.82$). He & the other private security guards put their life on the line for a mere salary of 70-75$ per month and will be very very lucky if they are able to fire atmost 1 shot from this tool if the need arise Moreover, they are most likely to have #4 birdshot shells in them. He is most likely to be guarding some private or "not so a high profile" dwelling. The bank guards that I have seen here are generally a just little better equipped than him. Atleast they have some Turkish or well made Pakistani weapon with 00 buckshot in them.