Blacking out Silencers

alienick · March 28, 2008, 04:51 PM

Hi I was wondering what would be the best method of blacking out manufacturer marks on silencers? I was considering using spray paint but I don't think it would be optimal lol...

musher · March 28, 2008, 04:59 PM

Are you trying to make the marks more visible or less visible?

VUPDblue · March 28, 2008, 05:03 PM

use a grease pencil (black, of course) and fill in the engraving. Don't know why on earth you would want to do that, though. I like mine to be as bright as possible. That way, I can give those interested as much info as possible...

ScottsGT · March 31, 2008, 11:23 AM

My dealer built mine, painted it with KG GunKote and THEN had it engraved. I would assume a thin spray of KG and a rebake would hide the info unless you went looking for it.

keatsabn · April 1, 2008, 12:44 PM

Just my thoughts on this and I am NO expert, but if you try to hide, paint over , obscure the marking you MIGHT be setting yourself up for a pain in the ass time later on. Think about this, your at the range shooting your supresser a "concerned citzen" call the local Cop Shop they send a vehical. He gets there you show him your form 4 and when he goes and checks the numbers, the numbers on the can are not CLEARLY marked. You have just popped up on the radar and here comes the ATF. I am not saying that you would get stuffed and cuffed but I do see you in a small room with Barney explaining why YOU chose to try and hide the numbers. Me personnaly I like mine to stand out. Have I been stopped YUP showed him my paperwork gave a quick class on how you get one and guess what another victum of the new age crack better known as the Wonderful World of NFA

ScottsGT · April 1, 2008, 01:48 PM

Personally I don't think painting over engraved letters would be any worse than the anodizing into the engraved SN on an AR-15 lower or any other firearm. As long as you can still read it clearly. You have not altered the numbers or attempted to hide them, unless you apply the paint so heavy that it looks like vinyl over the top. then you would have som concern.

VUPDblue · April 1, 2008, 07:32 PM

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Personally I don't think painting over engraved letters would be any worse than the anodizing into the engraved SN on an AR-15 lower or any other firearm.

I agree 100% BATFE has regulations for engraving, both depth and height of characters. They do not specify that those characters have to be a contrasting color to the rest of the firearm. There are several suppressors available in stainless that do not have the engraving highlighted.

alienick · April 8, 2008, 09:26 PM

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use a grease pencil (black, of course) and fill in the engraving. Don't know why on earth you would want to do that, though. I like mine to be as bright as possible. That way, I can give those interested as much info as possible...

Will the grease markings stand up to high heat? Like if I fire a lot of rounds on the suppressor, will the grease marking melt off or somehow disappear?

Bill DeShivs · April 9, 2008, 03:09 AM

Assuming the tube is aluminum, Birchwood Casey sells a product called "Aluminum Black." Dab it on with a Q tip, and wipe it off. It will darken the lettering permanently.

BerettaFox · April 27, 2008, 03:05 PM

I agree, I wouldn't do it unless your supressor is illegal anyways. Because if you do you'll be painting over the serial number and manufacturer name. And I have had to present my paperwork to authorities in SC on one occasion (he compared the serial number and manufacturer name with the paperwork to my supressor). If it doesn't really seem like a good idea, I wouldn't do it.

VUPDblue · April 27, 2008, 04:50 PM

My Quest has the numbers blacked-out from the factory. It is an all stainless can finished in black liquid ceramic by TI after engraving and before it left the factory.

If you want your letters black, make 'em that way. It is not illegal.

LiquidTension7 · April 30, 2008, 12:11 AM

Where were you in SC that you had to present paperwork? I don't know of any LEOs here besides myself that would even know what a Form 4 is...and I wouldn't ask for paperwork anyway unless something was seriously fishy.

Ricklin · April 30, 2008, 08:14 AM

I find it odd that one would be required to show their Form 4 to a LEO. I've never had anyone demand to see my 1040. Is a local LEO within his rights to demand the paperwork? After all, what he is really doing is requiring you to prove you have paid your taxes, right.... or am I missing something?

VUPDblue · April 30, 2008, 08:16 AM

What you would be providing to the LEO is that you are in legal posession of the NFA item in question. Tax has nothing to do with it. If you were carrying around your buddy's suppressor, you would be in violation even if you had a copy of his Form4 in hand.

March 28, 2008, 04:51 PM	#1
alienick Junior Member Join Date: March 28, 2008 Posts: 2	Blacking out Silencers Hi I was wondering what would be the best method of blacking out manufacturer marks on silencers? I was considering using spray paint but I don't think it would be optimal lol...

March 28, 2008, 05:03 PM	#3
VUPDblue Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,981	use a grease pencil (black, of course) and fill in the engraving. Don't know why on earth you would want to do that, though. I like mine to be as bright as possible. That way, I can give those interested as much info as possible... __________________ Silencers have NEVER been illegal !

April 1, 2008, 12:44 PM	#5
keatsabn Junior Member Join Date: January 1, 2007 Location: Midland, Ga (25 Miles North East of Fort Benning) Posts: 9	Just my thoughts on this and I am NO expert, but if you try to hide, paint over , obscure the marking you MIGHT be setting yourself up for a pain in the ass time later on. Think about this, your at the range shooting your supresser a "concerned citzen" call the local Cop Shop they send a vehical. He gets there you show him your form 4 and when he goes and checks the numbers, the numbers on the can are not CLEARLY marked. You have just popped up on the radar and here comes the ATF. I am not saying that you would get stuffed and cuffed but I do see you in a small room with Barney explaining why YOU chose to try and hide the numbers. Me personnaly I like mine to stand out. Have I been stopped YUP showed him my paperwork gave a quick class on how you get one and guess what another victum of the new age crack better known as the Wonderful World of NFA __________________ "All the Badges on your chest don’t mean anything, unless you have the heart to back them up" "ALL OK JUMPMASTER!!!"

April 9, 2008, 03:09 AM	#9
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,978	Assuming the tube is aluminum, Birchwood Casey sells a product called "Aluminum Black." Dab it on with a Q tip, and wipe it off. It will darken the lettering permanently. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

April 27, 2008, 04:50 PM	#11
VUPDblue Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,981	My Quest has the numbers blacked-out from the factory. It is an all stainless can finished in black liquid ceramic by TI after engraving and before it left the factory. If you want your letters black, make 'em that way. It is not illegal. __________________ Silencers have NEVER been illegal !

March 28, 2008, 04:59 PM	#2
musher Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2005 Posts: 462	Are you trying to make the marks more visible or less visible?

March 31, 2008, 11:23 AM	#4
ScottsGT Senior Member Join Date: September 20, 2001 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 236	My dealer built mine, painted it with KG GunKote and THEN had it engraved. I would assume a thin spray of KG and a rebake would hide the info unless you went looking for it.

April 1, 2008, 01:48 PM	#6
ScottsGT Senior Member Join Date: September 20, 2001 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 236	Personally I don't think painting over engraved letters would be any worse than the anodizing into the engraved SN on an AR-15 lower or any other firearm. As long as you can still read it clearly. You have not altered the numbers or attempted to hide them, unless you apply the paint so heavy that it looks like vinyl over the top. then you would have som concern.

April 27, 2008, 03:05 PM	#10
BerettaFox Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2008 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 144	I agree, I wouldn't do it unless your supressor is illegal anyways. Because if you do you'll be painting over the serial number and manufacturer name. And I have had to present my paperwork to authorities in SC on one occasion (he compared the serial number and manufacturer name with the paperwork to my supressor). If it doesn't really seem like a good idea, I wouldn't do it.

April 30, 2008, 12:11 AM	#12
LiquidTension7 Member Join Date: December 4, 2002 Location: SC Posts: 54	Where were you in SC that you had to present paperwork? I don't know of any LEOs here besides myself that would even know what a Form 4 is...and I wouldn't ask for paperwork anyway unless something was seriously fishy. __________________ Questions are more true than answers; this is the beginning of wisdom.

April 30, 2008, 08:14 AM	#13
Ricklin Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: SW Washington state Posts: 2,011	LEO tax enforcement? I find it odd that one would be required to show their Form 4 to a LEO. I've never had anyone demand to see my 1040. Is a local LEO within his rights to demand the paperwork? After all, what he is really doing is requiring you to prove you have paid your taxes, right.... or am I missing something? __________________ ricklin Freedom is not free

April 30, 2008, 08:16 AM	#14
VUPDblue Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2005 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 1,981	What you would be providing to the LEO is that you are in legal posession of the NFA item in question. Tax has nothing to do with it. If you were carrying around your buddy's suppressor, you would be in violation even if you had a copy of his Form4 in hand. __________________ Silencers have NEVER been illegal !

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