Making the right trade.

1S1K · November 17, 2002, 10:59 PM

I have the opportunity to trade my 1022 for either a marlin camp gun 9mm or a .30 carbine. I am looking to hunt coyotes and ground hogs at less than one hundred yards. Which would make the better trade.
Thanks,
Bill

H&H,hunter · November 17, 2002, 11:23 PM

From a purely functional and cost stand point I'd go with the 9mm.

From a cool stand point the Carbine wins hands down.

Sorry to cloud the issue just get them both.

Art Eatman · November 18, 2002, 12:12 AM

If you're gonna do more hunting than plinking, ammo's not much of a cost factor; I'd probably go with the GI Carbine. By the way, what manufacturer on the Carbine?

Art

yankytrash · November 18, 2002, 06:45 AM

I'd be leary of the 30carb. There are lots of inaccurate ones out there. Make sure she's a WWII model in good condition, and ask how she shoots.

You know, with the 1022, you have a decent varminter for under 100yd already when fed decent high velocity ammo. Why change?

Al Thompson · November 18, 2002, 10:42 AM

Looks like we need some more information.. If the carbine is GI, your about to get a screaming good deal. Minimum price around here is 500 bucks. Make the trade, check accuracy and sell it if you need to. The camp carbine (IIRC) can have a scope mounted on it , but has less power than the .30 carbine. Comparison - .30 carbine is 110 grains at 1900 FPS, 9mm is 124 at 1500 (ish). Plinking ammo is cheaper in 9mm, good hollow points run about the same price as soft points in .30.

1S1K · November 18, 2002, 08:24 PM

Some of the space is as small as 50 ancres, so I do not want to use anything high powered. I am not sure of the year and make on the .30. It does have a factory scope. The Marlin has been drilled and tapped, but no scope. The man I am trading with has never fired either gun, so no comment on accuracy. I just want to stop coyotes in their tracks. I do not want to take a chance of a bullet traveling too far.

Thanks for your responses.

Bill

labgrade · November 18, 2002, 09:26 PM

1S1K,

Not trying to queer your deal or anything, but I dunno if either will "stop 'em in their tracks" - of any of the three mentioned.

Too, unless you're assured of a goodly backstop all the time, I'd suggest something a bit more high velocity, shooting much more frangible bullets. They (the high speed .22 centerfires) tend to break up quite rapidly & really do minimize any chances of downrange "oops!" Pistol caliber bullets just don't have the zing to break up reliably (fo rme anyway unless solid backstops). YMMV

Too, the centerfires'll most certainly drop 'em in their tracks with good placement/bullet.

May be a case where more is actually better.

November 17, 2002, 10:59 PM	#1
1S1K Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Ohio Posts: 58	Making the right trade. I have the opportunity to trade my 1022 for either a marlin camp gun 9mm or a .30 carbine. I am looking to hunt coyotes and ground hogs at less than one hundred yards. Which would make the better trade. Thanks, Bill

November 17, 2002, 11:23 PM	#2
H&H,hunter Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 504	From a purely functional and cost stand point I'd go with the 9mm. From a cool stand point the Carbine wins hands down. Sorry to cloud the issue just get them both. __________________ Velocity is thrilling, But diameter does the real killing.

November 18, 2002, 06:45 AM	#4
yankytrash Senior Member Join Date: April 17, 2001 Location: Farnham, Va Posts: 2,183	I'd be leary of the 30carb. There are lots of inaccurate ones out there. Make sure she's a WWII model in good condition, and ask how she shoots. You know, with the 1022, you have a decent varminter for under 100yd already when fed decent high velocity ammo. Why change? __________________ Right turn, Clyde.

November 18, 2002, 10:42 AM	#5
Al Thompson Staff Alumnus Join Date: May 2, 1999 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,611	Looks like we need some more information.. If the carbine is GI, your about to get a screaming good deal. Minimum price around here is 500 bucks. Make the trade, check accuracy and sell it if you need to. The camp carbine (IIRC) can have a scope mounted on it , but has less power than the .30 carbine. Comparison - .30 carbine is 110 grains at 1900 FPS, 9mm is 124 at 1500 (ish). Plinking ammo is cheaper in 9mm, good hollow points run about the same price as soft points in .30. __________________ http://www.scfirearms.org/

November 18, 2002, 12:12 AM	#3
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	If you're gonna do more hunting than plinking, ammo's not much of a cost factor; I'd probably go with the GI Carbine. By the way, what manufacturer on the Carbine? Art

November 18, 2002, 08:24 PM	#6
1S1K Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Ohio Posts: 58	Some of the space is as small as 50 ancres, so I do not want to use anything high powered. I am not sure of the year and make on the .30. It does have a factory scope. The Marlin has been drilled and tapped, but no scope. The man I am trading with has never fired either gun, so no comment on accuracy. I just want to stop coyotes in their tracks. I do not want to take a chance of a bullet traveling too far. Thanks for your responses. Bill

November 18, 2002, 09:26 PM	#7
labgrade Member In Memoriam Join Date: November 29, 1999 Location: west of a small town, CO Posts: 4,346	1S1K, Not trying to queer your deal or anything, but I dunno if either will "stop 'em in their tracks" - of any of the three mentioned. Too, unless you're assured of a goodly backstop all the time, I'd suggest something a bit more high velocity, shooting much more frangible bullets. They (the high speed .22 centerfires) tend to break up quite rapidly & really do minimize any chances of downrange "oops!" Pistol caliber bullets just don't have the zing to break up reliably (fo rme anyway unless solid backstops). YMMV Too, the centerfires'll most certainly drop 'em in their tracks with good placement/bullet. May be a case where more is actually better.