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Old November 18, 2012, 08:41 PM   #26
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I'm not picking a fight over it as they are really so close. However I have a 26" barreled .243 and .25-06 and while I haven't shot Bergers in both I do shoot 115 Noslers, 117 Sierra and Hornady in the .257 and 105's in the Bergers. I've been able to get the 105 Bergers to 3100 fps and nearly the same with the 115-117's.

That said neither the .25-06 or .243 Win are ideal elk cartridges. Heck I've even posted that same video a few times, but that was a near perfect situation as you'll ever see for using a .243 Win on elk. Having killed several elk myself I can tell that I'd never recommend the use of a .243 Win or .25-06 for elk unless that was all you had to use. There are just far better options to use on elk regardless of what one video shows.
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Old November 18, 2012, 09:27 PM   #27
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Didnt see what you were dolng with said rifle ,But a 25-06 is a blast to shoot deer,hogs,coyotes with. But elk big bear dont know aint any in GA.
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Old November 18, 2012, 09:50 PM   #28
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I'm not picking a fight over it as they are really so close. However I have a 26" barreled .243 and .25-06 and while I haven't shot Bergers in both I do shoot 115 Noslers, 117 Sierra and Hornady in the .257 and 105's in the Bergers. I've been able to get the 105 Bergers to 3100 fps and nearly the same with the 115-117's.

That said neither the .25-06 or .243 Win are ideal elk cartridges. Heck I've even posted that same video a few times, but that was a near perfect situation as you'll ever see for using a .243 Win on elk. Having killed several elk myself I can tell that I'd never recommend the use of a .243 Win or .25-06 for elk unless that was all you had to use. There are just far better options to use on elk regardless of what one video shows.
Possibly, but again, the point I am making is that the idea that a 25-06 is adequate for coyote and nothing bigger at 400 yards is pure silliness.
I wouldn't hesitate to use either one on an elk at 400 yards if I thought I could put the bullet where it needed to be.
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Old November 18, 2012, 10:35 PM   #29
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The use for this rifle will be mostly target and var it and the occasional hunt. Nothing bigger than deer. And I would not hesitate to shoot 500 yards with a 25-06 on deer.
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Old November 18, 2012, 10:48 PM   #30
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Possibly, but again, the point I am making is that the idea that a 25-06 is adequate for coyote and nothing bigger at 400 yards is pure silliness. I wouldn't hesitate to use either one on an elk at 400 yards if I thought I could put the bullet where it needed to be.
I'm sure the "coyote" comment was an exaggeration to some point, and maybe some personal feelings mixed in. However, saying you wouldn't hesitate to shoot an elk at 400 yards tells me that you have never seriously hunted elk. A big cow will more than double a big NY buck and a bull will probably be at least three times as large.

We all know that bullet placement trumps velocity and energy every time. When using marginal cartridges on elk, and the .25-06 and .243 are marginal, you had better be prepared to eat tag soup all winter. Even though bullet technology has improved the performance of both cartridges they still can't best larger chmberings when it come to killing elk.
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Old November 19, 2012, 10:42 AM   #31
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Do you already own a long-action 700?....or will this be a new rifle purchase?

If a new rifle, I'd go with a .243 or a .260. Brass & ammo is a lot cheaper, and both cartridges will do anything a .25-06 will do with less powder and recoil.
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