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May 21, 2010, 10:25 PM | #1 |
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'51 Navy .44 and '60 Army - Same frame?
I'll try to keep this as uncomplicated as possible...
Was in my local gun store yesterday and handled a brass frame '51, chambered for .44. What caught my attention was the plain, unengraved cylinder - which is what I really want on the '60 Army I'm putting together. Dixie has a plain, unengraved cylinder: http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product...ducts_id=13046 But the description says it only fits 3 guns, only 1 of which they actually stock (and I don't want). It does say it fits the .44 Army Sheriff - do they mean this one?: http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...817&hasJS=true Does the Sheriff really require a different cylinder from 8" '60s? This doesn't seem cost-effective... Question 1: Will this cylinder fit any Pietta 1860? And Question 2: If this cylinder is strictly for '51s chambered for .44, can I buy a .44 '51 and stick a '60 barrel on it? Will the frame and barrel mate? Will the cylinder and barrel mate? Last edited by DustyBottoms; May 21, 2010 at 10:32 PM. |
May 21, 2010, 10:33 PM | #2 |
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The Pietta .44 1851s and 1860s use the same frame and cylinder. Only difference between them is the barrel and grips.
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May 24, 2010, 11:51 AM | #3 |
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Okay.
Thanks, Fingers. I'll figure the rest out I suppose... |
May 24, 2010, 04:27 PM | #4 |
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The Pietta .44 1851s and 1860s use the same frame and cylinder. Only difference between them is the barrel and grips.
You will have to alter the grip frame some to put '60 grips on a '51. The capping area is different, and Pietta doesn't make 3 screw '60s. I went to buy a '60 barrel for my '51 and VTI told me that it's not a direct swap, that the back of the barrel will need to be filed off and that the forcing cone will have to be redone.
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I don't doubt someone at VTI told ya that about the barrels. But I had a Pietta 1861 Colt Navy .36 and two other barrels for it with wooden and White Faux Ivory Grips, and a spare grip frame, an 1851 Navy barrel 7.5", and a 4" round reb barrel. They all had the same forcing cone and all fit like a glove.
I din't have to do a thing to the forcing cones when changin' barrels. That's my expiriance anyway...
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May 25, 2010, 07:35 AM | #7 |
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Pietta Cylinders
I've purchased a few spare cylinders from Cabelas and they all fit like a glove. .44 in Navy or Army. .44 Pietta fits all Pietta's in .44. (Same for .36)
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Before swapping After swapping No modification/filing required. Barrels slipped right on, wedges seated same as before swapping; cylinders spin free, no binding on forcing cone; loading lever lines up with chambers. I had a pair of nickel plated 1860 Army sheriffs models with the gold cylinder. Didn't want to use the gold cylinder, so used the polished in the white cylinders from a pair of '51 US Marshal models with no problems.
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Thanks a lot, everyone! And Fingers, your '60 is ruttin' GORGEOUS! |
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That was the only thing keeping me from doing it to my Pietta...
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May 25, 2010, 12:08 PM | #11 |
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Yah, with what VTI wants for a barrel now, you may as well just buy another pistol.
Dixie used to have 'em for $80, but they want $100 now! When did that happen?? |
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Ya, I was going to put a 60 barrel on my 1851, but they want 125 for the
barrel and another 55 for the loading lever. I can buy the gun for 140. ??? |
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