Can anyone tell me what this is? Pic

ghostman1960 · June 10, 2009, 05:31 PM

Hkmp5sd · June 10, 2009, 05:38 PM

Looks like two AR-15s mounted back to back with the gas systems crossed and 90 round snail drums installed. Might fire each gun by pulling one trigger.

alloy · June 10, 2009, 05:42 PM

I don't know but it looks illegal, the south bend lathe in the background however...looks about like a 14-1/2"?

elrod · June 10, 2009, 05:44 PM

Looks like one of them things the the federal agents went huntin' in the woods at night!

Tamara · June 10, 2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by alloy

I don't know but it looks illegal, the south bend lathe in the background however...looks about like a 14-1/2"?

I don't think the barrel length is much of a big deal. Look at the selector switch on the bottom gun.

It looks like a really quick way to empty two 100rd Beta-C drums to no real purpose except turning money into noise.

James K · June 10, 2009, 06:56 PM

I THINK the idea is to have one gun fire while the other is loading, thereby increasing the rate of fire. IMHO the inventor is off the wall, but he seems to be a crackerjack machinist if he got it to work.

Jim

kozak6 · June 10, 2009, 07:20 PM

http://www.tromix.com/Projects_o_Tromix.htm

Halfway down the page.

KLRANGL · June 10, 2009, 08:36 PM

Makes sense. If the "trigger" in the top AR is held down in auto mode, then it will be the means that the bottom AR cycles. So you either have two round bust, or auto. Interesting...

I demand a video...

VA9mm · June 10, 2009, 08:56 PM

Oh that, that's my hd gun

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hogdogs · June 11, 2009, 01:32 AM

If it works it is an awesome creation... I am not an NFA fluent guy but now that the "giggle switch" was pointed out....

Brent

riggins_83 · June 11, 2009, 01:48 AM

I remember seeing that somewhere awhile ago.. cannot remember where though

Maser · June 11, 2009, 01:49 AM

I thought that was a VERY good Photoshop job upon looking at that pic. A FA M4 cycles at about 900 RPM right? If that bad boy was FA, I really wouldn't mind seeing its 1,800 RPMs in action. I must say it is ugly as sin, but is probably lots of fun as long as someone else is paying for the ammo.

KLRANGL · June 11, 2009, 08:55 AM

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I thought that was a VERY good Photoshop job upon looking at that pic. A FA M4 cycles at about 900 RPM right? If that bad boy was FA, I really wouldn't mind seeing its 1,800 RPMs in action. I must say it is ugly as sin, but is probably lots of fun as long as someone else is paying for the ammo.

I dont think it would increase RPM. The AR actions are in series, not parallel. One wouldn't fire until the other fully cycles. Im just guessing though

Skans · June 11, 2009, 10:04 AM

I think you guys are way over analizing this thing!!

Look at it. All someone did was take the grip off of the one of the guns and put the scope rails back to back screwing the two guns together with a clamp. They removed one half of of the forestock on each gun and then criss-crossed the gas tubes.

This thing doesn't work. It was never meant to work. The guy used a camara angle to hide part of the grip frame and fire control parts on the top/upside-down gun. In fact, if you look right behind the top betamag, just above the forward assist, I am fairly certain that part of the picture was photoshopped (see little black triangular sliver).

This is nothing but a smoke-and-mirrors hoax gun.

PS - After reviewing that link, I might have to take a closer look at this thing???

flight954 · June 11, 2009, 10:38 AM

It would be better to see it in action rather than just a pic. Oops Skans just answered my queston

Dingoboyx · June 11, 2009, 10:43 AM

But if someone pointed it at me, I would do what they said, TFFS!

Bart Noir · June 11, 2009, 02:23 PM

Will see the new Terminator movie this weekend.

I thought this gun was a prop from that

Bart Noir

SigfanTN · June 11, 2009, 03:53 PM

It's a good thing that contraption holds all that ammo, since the operator wouldn't be able to see what they were shooting at.

Can we say "spray and pray".

Willie Lowman · June 11, 2009, 04:19 PM

This just shows you, don't leave your OU next to your AR in the safe!

paull · June 12, 2009, 10:15 AM

That right there is what we call foreplay.

p

bamafan4life · June 12, 2009, 01:29 PM

yea the top one is upside down. it would be cool and a great combo if the top was a .308. and u actually had a way to aim it. has anyone ever played army of 2? in that game you can put a remington 870 in place of the grenade launcher. but heres my question. is this possible? if it is it would be the heaviest pointless most kick-butt thing ive ever seen! id be tempted to do it. like i said it would be heavy and usless but people sure would envy you at the range.

Hkmp5sd · June 12, 2009, 04:38 PM

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a remington 870 in place of the grenade launcher. but heres my question. is this possible?

Yep. There were a few companies back in the 90s that made them. Jonathan Arthur Ciener made one that snapped on the bayonet lug. It came in both a NFA/SBS version and a Title I version.

FrontSight · June 12, 2009, 05:46 PM

AWESOME is what it is!

tazz7002 · June 12, 2009, 07:00 PM

looks like good squirrel gun

cchardwick · June 17, 2009, 11:38 PM

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no real purpose ...

Your missing the whole point of NFA weapons, the purpose is to HAVE FUN!

It's wicked cool looking!

I WANT ONE!

June 10, 2009, 05:31 PM	#1
ghostman1960 Member Join Date: February 27, 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 99	Can anyone tell me what this is? Pic

June 10, 2009, 05:38 PM	#2
Hkmp5sd Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 4,303	Looks like two AR-15s mounted back to back with the gas systems crossed and 90 round snail drums installed. Might fire each gun by pulling one trigger. __________________ NRA Certified Instructor: Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, Home Safety, Personal Protection, Range Safety Officer NRA Life Member

June 10, 2009, 05:44 PM	#4
elrod Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2007 Location: Heart of the heart of Dixie Posts: 234	Looks like one of them things the the federal agents went huntin' in the woods at night! __________________ Freedom ain't free!

June 10, 2009, 08:36 PM	#8
KLRANGL Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2008 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 958	Makes sense. If the "trigger" in the top AR is held down in auto mode, then it will be the means that the bottom AR cycles. So you either have two round bust, or auto. Interesting... I demand a video... __________________ And it's Killer Angel... as in the book

June 10, 2009, 08:56 PM	#9
VA9mm Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2007 Location: N. VA Posts: 254	Oh that, that's my hd gun . __________________ “The key is to hit them hard, hit them fast, and hit them repeatedly. The one shot stop is a unit of measurement not a tactical philosophy.” Evan Marshall

June 10, 2009, 06:56 PM	#6
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	I THINK the idea is to have one gun fire while the other is loading, thereby increasing the rate of fire. IMHO the inventor is off the wall, but he seems to be a crackerjack machinist if he got it to work. Jim

June 10, 2009, 07:20 PM	#7
kozak6 Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2005 Location: AZ Posts: 3,113	http://www.tromix.com/Projects_o_Tromix.htm Halfway down the page.

June 11, 2009, 01:32 AM	#10
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	If it works it is an awesome creation... I am not an NFA fluent guy but now that the "giggle switch" was pointed out.... Brent

June 11, 2009, 01:48 AM	#11
riggins_83 Senior Member Join Date: January 19, 2009 Location: Wherever I may roam Posts: 1,506	I remember seeing that somewhere awhile ago.. cannot remember where though

June 11, 2009, 01:49 AM	#12
Maser Senior Member Join Date: May 21, 2006 Location: Mysterious Cities of Gold Posts: 920	I thought that was a VERY good Photoshop job upon looking at that pic. A FA M4 cycles at about 900 RPM right? If that bad boy was FA, I really wouldn't mind seeing its 1,800 RPMs in action. I must say it is ugly as sin, but is probably lots of fun as long as someone else is paying for the ammo.

June 11, 2009, 10:04 AM	#14
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	I think you guys are way over analizing this thing!! Look at it. All someone did was take the grip off of the one of the guns and put the scope rails back to back screwing the two guns together with a clamp. They removed one half of of the forestock on each gun and then criss-crossed the gas tubes. This thing doesn't work. It was never meant to work. The guy used a camara angle to hide part of the grip frame and fire control parts on the top/upside-down gun. In fact, if you look right behind the top betamag, just above the forward assist, I am fairly certain that part of the picture was photoshopped (see little black triangular sliver). This is nothing but a smoke-and-mirrors hoax gun. PS - After reviewing that link, I might have to take a closer look at this thing??? Last edited by Skans; June 11, 2009 at 10:12 AM.

June 11, 2009, 10:38 AM	#15
flight954 Senior Member Join Date: November 1, 2006 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 933	It would be better to see it in action rather than just a pic. Oops Skans just answered my queston

June 11, 2009, 10:43 AM	#16
Dingoboyx Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2009 Location: South East Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,513	I dunno?! But if someone pointed it at me, I would do what they said, TFFS! __________________ Muzza If you cant blind them with brilliance, Baffle them with BS Be alert...... there is a shortage of LERTs

June 11, 2009, 02:23 PM	#17
Bart Noir Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2000 Location: Puget Sound, USA Posts: 2,215	Will see the new Terminator movie this weekend. I thought this gun was a prop from that Bart Noir __________________ Be of good cheer and mindful of your gun muzzle!

June 11, 2009, 03:53 PM	#18
SigfanTN Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2008 Posts: 183	It's a good thing that contraption holds all that ammo, since the operator wouldn't be able to see what they were shooting at. Can we say "spray and pray".

June 11, 2009, 04:19 PM	#19
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 3,006	This just shows you, don't leave your OU next to your AR in the safe! __________________ "9mm has a very long history of being a pointy little bullet moving quickly" --Sevens

June 12, 2009, 10:15 AM	#20
paull Junior member Join Date: November 9, 1999 Location: SE Texas, 'tween Houston & Galveston Posts: 157	Can anyone tell me what this is? That right there is what we call foreplay. p

June 12, 2009, 01:29 PM	#21
bamafan4life Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2009 Posts: 190	yea the top one is upside down. it would be cool and a great combo if the top was a .308. and u actually had a way to aim it. has anyone ever played army of 2? in that game you can put a remington 870 in place of the grenade launcher. but heres my question. is this possible? if it is it would be the heaviest pointless most kick-butt thing ive ever seen! id be tempted to do it. like i said it would be heavy and usless but people sure would envy you at the range.

June 12, 2009, 05:46 PM	#23
FrontSight Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2005 Posts: 1,712	AWESOME is what it is! __________________ To kill something as great as a duck just to smell the gunpowder is a crime against nature. - Alan Liere Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. - George Bernard Shaw

June 12, 2009, 07:00 PM	#24
tazz7002 Junior member Join Date: April 1, 2009 Location: kentucky Posts: 154	ar looks like good squirrel gun