Ex Military? This is scary! - Page 3

armsmaster270 · October 8, 2011, 04:32 AM

Youngunz: you are kinda right. Some courts have held that C.G are covered by HR218, however if you are carrying and another L.E. feels you are wrong and arrests you and the court throws it out you still can be shafted by your unit.

tahunua001 · October 8, 2011, 02:38 PM

sounds like the guy was talking out of the wrong end. I'm active duty and hold a security clearance. I went in to buy a gun and was cleared inside of 5 minutes, my brother went to the same store and waited nearly a week for his BGC to clear...

**Mike Irwin** · October 9, 2011, 11:00 AM

"My understanding is that a security clearance has as part of its process a full background records check."

No.

The amount of digging that goes into one's background depends greatly on both the agency conducting the investigation AND the clearance level being issued.

A confidential clearance (aka Position of Public Trust) clearance may only involve a finger print and credit history review.

Secret may not be much more invasive than the PPT investigation, or it may come pretty close to the effort carried out for a Top Secret.

SHNOMIDO · October 9, 2011, 11:07 AM

I have a buddy that was put on some airplane "watch list" when he joined the Marines.

Doesn't make sense to me, doesn't make sense to him either. But apparently its a pretty good pain in the rear when he has to fly around, especially for marine duty.

October 8, 2011, 04:32 AM	#51
armsmaster270 Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,951	Youngunz: you are kinda right. Some courts have held that C.G are covered by HR218, however if you are carrying and another L.E. feels you are wrong and arrests you and the court throws it out you still can be shafted by your unit. __________________ http://www.armsmaster.net-a.googlepages.com http://s239.photobucket.com/albums/f...aster270/Guns/ Retired LE, M.P., Sr. M.P. Investigator F.B.I. Trained Rangemaster/Firearms Instructor & Armorer, Presently Forensic Document Examiner for D.H.S.

October 8, 2011, 02:38 PM	#52
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	sounds like the guy was talking out of the wrong end. I'm active duty and hold a security clearance. I went in to buy a gun and was cleared inside of 5 minutes, my brother went to the same store and waited nearly a week for his BGC to clear... __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

October 9, 2011, 11:00 AM	#53
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,380	"My understanding is that a security clearance has as part of its process a full background records check." No. The amount of digging that goes into one's background depends greatly on both the agency conducting the investigation AND the clearance level being issued. A confidential clearance (aka Position of Public Trust) clearance may only involve a finger print and credit history review. Secret may not be much more invasive than the PPT investigation, or it may come pretty close to the effort carried out for a Top Secret. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

October 9, 2011, 11:07 AM	#54
SHNOMIDO Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 423	I have a buddy that was put on some airplane "watch list" when he joined the Marines. Doesn't make sense to me, doesn't make sense to him either. But apparently its a pretty good pain in the rear when he has to fly around, especially for marine duty.