Target with only a .22 pistol

pdmoderator · November 6, 2002, 11:23 AM

Hi, all,

Is there any sort of target competition that someone could do with only a Ruger Slabside?

I own a .45, but it's set up for defense and I don't want to buy another pistol right now.

Thanks,
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Navy joe · November 6, 2002, 11:40 AM

Bowling pin matches?

braindead0 · November 6, 2002, 11:54 AM

Bullseye

pdmoderator · November 6, 2002, 12:35 PM

I thought you needed at least a .22 and a .45 to do bullseye. Am I wrong?

And do bowling pins go over with a .22 shot?

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braindead0 · November 6, 2002, 01:10 PM

Perhaps for 'official' bullseye matches, all I know is our local bullseye club has several folks that compete in local matches using 22 only...

I think he was pulling your leg about bowling pins, normal matches require you to shoot them off the table not just knock them over, requires decent hit with good shot placement to keep them from simply spinning around.

Old Fuff · November 6, 2002, 01:14 PM

Bullseye tournaments are usually devided into: .22, centerfire (which is .32 through .45) and .45 matches. Back in the 1950's I started with an old Colt Target Woodsman with a piece of 3/8" steel rod taped under the barrel to make it more muzzle heavy. We've come a long way since then. Depending on whatever modifications you've made on the .45 it still might be legal to shoot in centerfire and .45 matches. Not the best maybe, but you have to start somewhere.

pdmoderator · November 6, 2002, 01:27 PM

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Depending on whatever modifications you've made on the .45 it still might be legal to shoot in centerfire and .45 matches. Not the best maybe, but you have to start somewhere.

It's an HK in variant 7 (DAO trigger) and with PT sights. I could get it converted to variant 1 and put on target sights, I suppose, but I don't like having a manual safety on a defense gun, and DAO is really too heavy for target.

Wouldn't cry over the PT sights, tho.

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Steve Smith · November 6, 2002, 03:15 PM

Smallbore Bullseye, as in (normally) indoor matches. Some places have 'em, some don't. If you have an Olympic center nearby you're set.

Another possibility...smallbore silhouette.

Old Fuff · November 6, 2002, 03:29 PM

Don't worry about your .45 - Go try some matches with the Ruger. If you REALLY like them then think about a different .45 target pistol.

pdmoderator · November 6, 2002, 03:51 PM

In a perfect world, you're right, Old Fuff. But I've got some family-related constraints that make it more attractive to modify what I've got than to get another. (My wife tolerates X guns in the house, but doesn't want X+1, not for a long while anyway.)

Anywho, you're also right that there is no point worrying about it until I've gone out to some matches!

And there's always IDPA. My Glock 19 will work just fine for that.

Target is just a heck of a lot more convenient to get to.

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Steve Smith · November 6, 2002, 04:19 PM

pd, just go do it. Don't argue..just do it. Trust me.

If you get hooked, you wont' have to worry about the wife's gun count...as long as you don't take food off the table, you'l be fine. Sorry, this is going to sound pretty anti-women's lib, but sometimes you just have to do what you want to do, despite their "feelings." She'll get over it.

Navy joe · November 6, 2002, 07:55 PM

No, I wasn't kidding, at least around here you can run your .22 right next to a loudenboomer .45 whatever in a bowling pin match. They set the pins for the .22 right at the back of the table, pins for the big bores all the way to the front. First clear table wins. Frequently the .22 is victorious.

While formal Bullseye is .22, centerfire, and .45 I'm sure there are infromal matches. Some areas also have rimfire field silhouette matches where you go after little steel rabbits and such in field conditions, kinda like 3-D archery games.

ACP230 · November 6, 2002, 08:40 PM

There are lots of winter Bullseye leagues (or evening leagues) where your Ruger .22 would be all you need. Outdoor pistol matches often require .22, centerfire, and .45 guns. There are a couple of things to know, however. You can shoot the .45 in the centerfire events too, and most people do. You can also shoot only one stage of a larger match. If you only have a .22 just sign up for the .22 stage.

I haven't shot Bullseye for a couple of years now, but I plan to start up again this winter. I'll be shooting my Ruger Mark II bull barrel if I do.

Old Fuff · November 6, 2002, 11:12 PM

Want to shoot IDPA? Great. If you get into bullseye shooting with the Ruger you'll learn and master basic marksmenship that will soon be reflected in the practical matches. Practice makes perfect (as long as you're doing it right) and it costs a lot less to practice with a .22 then something larger. I know. Been there, done that.

nglitz · July 3, 2004, 10:17 AM

You can shoot the first third of a bullseye match with your .22. There are no restrictions that would prevent you from shooting your H&K in the centerfire and .45 sections, but you might want to ook into "targetizing" it a bit for your own comfort. 180 rounds, one handed gets a bit abusive.

See NJ Pistol for matches. Come on out & shoot!!

Igloodude · November 10, 2004, 09:19 AM

To add to what others have said about Bullseye, sometimes you will find that match organizers will permit .22's to be shot in the centerfire and (less often) the .45 thirds of matches but simply will drop your scores in those from official results. You are essentially 'practicing under match conditions' for those portions of the match. In particular I've seen it permitted for 1800 matches (.22 and CF) because you see enough .32s and similarly light centerfire calibers that fellow shooters don't even notice that you're still shooting rimfire.

Besides, Bullseye is an excellent shooting discipline to get your wife introduced to shooting on some level, or at least more tolerant of it. It is about as violent in initial appearance (and feel) as bowling, does not require much equipment to get started in, and develops the first two things you want any shooter to have - safety-mindedness and ability to hit the target. Bring her along to a match, she'll first be impressed with how boring it is to watch, and then later on how much fun it is to actually shoot the gun instead of watch.

Tacoma · November 10, 2004, 12:26 PM

You should check to see if any local clubs /ranges have pistol teams/ events. Up my way there are lots of Rimfire Gallery leagues. ( Very similar to bullseye with slow, rapid and timed fire stages on a 50' indoor course.) Also , Silhouette matches usually have a rimfire pistol class. Lastly, we have one club that runs monthly indoor rimfire plate shoots. My point being, rimfire games are pretty popular and diverse. I doubt you'll have to go far to find some once you get to looking.
hth

November 6, 2002, 11:23 AM	#1
pdmoderator Registration in progress Join Date: November 6, 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,202	Target with only a .22 pistol Hi, all, Is there any sort of target competition that someone could do with only a Ruger Slabside? I own a .45, but it's set up for defense and I don't want to buy another pistol right now. Thanks, - pdmoderator __________________ Give up no state. Give up no ground.

November 6, 2002, 11:40 AM	#2
Navy joe Senior Member Join Date: January 28, 2001 Location: VA, USA Posts: 1,804	Bowling pin matches? __________________ FY47012

November 6, 2002, 11:54 AM	#3
braindead0 Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2002 Location: Canton, Oh Posts: 896	Bullseye __________________ DoD# 2223 Meum scapha volitare plenum anguillae

November 6, 2002, 12:35 PM	#4
pdmoderator Registration in progress Join Date: November 6, 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,202	I thought you needed at least a .22 and a .45 to do bullseye. Am I wrong? And do bowling pins go over with a .22 shot? - pdmoderator __________________ Give up no state. Give up no ground.

November 6, 2002, 01:10 PM	#5
braindead0 Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2002 Location: Canton, Oh Posts: 896	Perhaps for 'official' bullseye matches, all I know is our local bullseye club has several folks that compete in local matches using 22 only... I think he was pulling your leg about bowling pins, normal matches require you to shoot them off the table not just knock them over, requires decent hit with good shot placement to keep them from simply spinning around. __________________ DoD# 2223 Meum scapha volitare plenum anguillae

November 6, 2002, 01:14 PM	#6
Old Fuff Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 237	Bullseye tournaments are usually devided into: .22, centerfire (which is .32 through .45) and .45 matches. Back in the 1950's I started with an old Colt Target Woodsman with a piece of 3/8" steel rod taped under the barrel to make it more muzzle heavy. We've come a long way since then. Depending on whatever modifications you've made on the .45 it still might be legal to shoot in centerfire and .45 matches. Not the best maybe, but you have to start somewhere.

November 6, 2002, 03:15 PM	#8
Steve Smith Senior Member Join Date: December 9, 1999 Posts: 4,131	Smallbore Bullseye, as in (normally) indoor matches. Some places have 'em, some don't. If you have an Olympic center nearby you're set. Another possibility...smallbore silhouette. __________________ Favor the X. Steve Smith NRA Life Member

November 6, 2002, 03:29 PM	#9
Old Fuff Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 237	Don't worry about your .45 - Go try some matches with the Ruger. If you REALLY like them then think about a different .45 target pistol.

November 6, 2002, 03:51 PM	#10
pdmoderator Registration in progress Join Date: November 6, 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,202	In a perfect world, you're right, Old Fuff. But I've got some family-related constraints that make it more attractive to modify what I've got than to get another. (My wife tolerates X guns in the house, but doesn't want X+1, not for a long while anyway.) Anywho, you're also right that there is no point worrying about it until I've gone out to some matches! And there's always IDPA. My Glock 19 will work just fine for that. Target is just a heck of a lot more convenient to get to. - pdmoderator __________________ Give up no state. Give up no ground.

November 6, 2002, 04:19 PM	#11
Steve Smith Senior Member Join Date: December 9, 1999 Posts: 4,131	pd, just go do it. Don't argue..just do it. Trust me. If you get hooked, you wont' have to worry about the wife's gun count...as long as you don't take food off the table, you'l be fine. Sorry, this is going to sound pretty anti-women's lib, but sometimes you just have to do what you want to do, despite their "feelings." She'll get over it. __________________ Favor the X. Steve Smith NRA Life Member

November 6, 2002, 07:55 PM	#12
Navy joe Senior Member Join Date: January 28, 2001 Location: VA, USA Posts: 1,804	No, I wasn't kidding, at least around here you can run your .22 right next to a loudenboomer .45 whatever in a bowling pin match. They set the pins for the .22 right at the back of the table, pins for the big bores all the way to the front. First clear table wins. Frequently the .22 is victorious. While formal Bullseye is .22, centerfire, and .45 I'm sure there are infromal matches. Some areas also have rimfire field silhouette matches where you go after little steel rabbits and such in field conditions, kinda like 3-D archery games. __________________ FY47012

November 6, 2002, 08:40 PM	#13
ACP230 Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2000 Posts: 708	There are lots of winter Bullseye leagues (or evening leagues) where your Ruger .22 would be all you need. Outdoor pistol matches often require .22, centerfire, and .45 guns. There are a couple of things to know, however. You can shoot the .45 in the centerfire events too, and most people do. You can also shoot only one stage of a larger match. If you only have a .22 just sign up for the .22 stage. I haven't shot Bullseye for a couple of years now, but I plan to start up again this winter. I'll be shooting my Ruger Mark II bull barrel if I do. __________________ "To disarm the people (is) the best & most effectual way to enslave them." George Mason.

November 6, 2002, 11:12 PM	#14
Old Fuff Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 237	Want to shoot IDPA? Great. If you get into bullseye shooting with the Ruger you'll learn and master basic marksmenship that will soon be reflected in the practical matches. Practice makes perfect (as long as you're doing it right) and it costs a lot less to practice with a .22 then something larger. I know. Been there, done that.

July 3, 2004, 10:17 AM	#15
nglitz Junior Member Join Date: August 31, 2002 Location: Hamilton Square NJ, near trent Posts: 10	You can shoot the first third of a bullseye match with your .22. There are no restrictions that would prevent you from shooting your H&K in the centerfire and .45 sections, but you might want to ook into "targetizing" it a bit for your own comfort. 180 rounds, one handed gets a bit abusive. See NJ Pistol for matches. Come on out & shoot!! __________________ Norm Glitz Distinguished in pistol and Revolver Now hacking around in high power service rifle

November 10, 2004, 09:19 AM	#16
Igloodude Member Join Date: November 10, 2004 Location: southern NH Posts: 50	To add to what others have said about Bullseye, sometimes you will find that match organizers will permit .22's to be shot in the centerfire and (less often) the .45 thirds of matches but simply will drop your scores in those from official results. You are essentially 'practicing under match conditions' for those portions of the match. In particular I've seen it permitted for 1800 matches (.22 and CF) because you see enough .32s and similarly light centerfire calibers that fellow shooters don't even notice that you're still shooting rimfire. Besides, Bullseye is an excellent shooting discipline to get your wife introduced to shooting on some level, or at least more tolerant of it. It is about as violent in initial appearance (and feel) as bowling, does not require much equipment to get started in, and develops the first two things you want any shooter to have - safety-mindedness and ability to hit the target. Bring her along to a match, she'll first be impressed with how boring it is to watch, and then later on how much fun it is to actually shoot the gun instead of watch.

November 10, 2004, 12:26 PM	#17
Tacoma Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2004 Location: SE New England Posts: 620	You should check to see if any local clubs /ranges have pistol teams/ events. Up my way there are lots of Rimfire Gallery leagues. ( Very similar to bullseye with slow, rapid and timed fire stages on a 50' indoor course.) Also , Silhouette matches usually have a rimfire pistol class. Lastly, we have one club that runs monthly indoor rimfire plate shoots. My point being, rimfire games are pretty popular and diverse. I doubt you'll have to go far to find some once you get to looking. hth