Is this a good newbie AR-15 build/package

shinwa98 · May 23, 2014, 08:24 PM

For a while now I've been asking about guns and what to buy etc. Since I don't have all the money yet, I figured I might as well just wait longer and save more. But here is build/begginer package I put together. To any experienced AR-15 owners/builders, is this a good one?

(Del-ton m4 complete build kit $480
NcStar carry handle $30
M16 Rifle cleaning kit $20
Rem oil $4) $572 w/shipping

Ati omni hybrid stripped receiver $42 + FFL fee $25

Ammo (600 federal brand rounds) $270 w/shipping

Total $909

Any advice is much appreciated. Thanks!

SamNavy · May 24, 2014, 01:17 AM

Polymer lower receivers just don't have the reputation for durability yet that I demand in a firearm. Stick with a forged lower. Palmetto State Armory has forged lowers on sale every day of the week for $49.99, and they complete classic lower kits are on sale almost every day for $149.99. They're currently having a sale w/free shipping on all their complete uppers. Stay away from their PTAC brand, it's rumored to be an all-sorts of other vendors factory rejects.

Complete upper w/BCG+CH $349
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...-handle-1.html

Complete lower: $149
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...-magazine.html

You'll need a rear sight... Magpul MBUS is the universal standard, or Palmetto State sells a decent set of aluminum ones. If you're set on a carry-handle, they have one of those too.

Grab a cleaning kit from your local gun-store and try to buy your ammo there unless they're still charging ridiculous prices. Now that the absurd ammo rush is over for centerfire ammo, most LGS's have their prices back inline with what's available online.

If you're going to build it yourself though, you'll need an armorers wrench and a vice block.

Nothing wrong with your ammo choice or the price.

Don't forget magazines... I see lot of places selling non-window PMAGs and C-Products mags for $9 each. If you go with steel/aluminum, make sure they have anti-tilt followers. You can find old beat-to-death tilt-follower mags at gunshows for like $5 (they all need a rebuild) but don't do it. 5 mags is a good round number for getting started.

Brotherbadger · May 24, 2014, 03:36 AM

Looks ok. I would stay away from the poly lower, especially since stripped aluminum ones can be had for pretty much the exact same price(check out PSA).

Metal god · May 24, 2014, 10:55 AM

PSA is your friend !!!!

Save the money so you will be ready to buy when the PSA deal you want is in stock . There turn over rate is huge . Be patient and wait for what you want . The most you will wait is 2 weeks after you have the money and you will get a great rifle at a good price !!!

I just did this PSA , Spikes build

16" Barrel length
416 Stainless steel barrel
223 Wylde Chamber
1 in 8" twist rate
Lead-lapped bore
M4 Feed ramps
MI SS12G2 free-float Rail
A2 Flash Hider
Forged upper receiver
T-Marks
M16 Bolt Carrier
HPT/MPI Carpenter 158 Bolt

On a Spikes MOE lower . Total cost for the rifle is $770 delivered . I've looked around and can't find anything with those specs for less then 1k

Here you go , complete AR for under $650 including the transfer fee , delivered
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...ire-lower.html
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...kit-black.html
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...ng-handle.html

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shinwa98 · May 24, 2014, 11:12 AM

Thanks everyone, I'll hit up PSA right away.

Metal god · May 24, 2014, 02:45 PM

When shopping at PSA for your upper . Make sure it comes with the BCG ( bolt carrier group ) most of them do not now . It's not a big deal you can order it separate. The one I linked does come with .

There P-TAC line is ok but I'd stick with the PSA line and parts .

IMO Rem oil is garbage , it's thin and dries out fast . Break free CLP , Slip 2000 are my go to AR lube

marine6680 · May 24, 2014, 07:56 PM

The PSA premium line is a good deal... Wait for a sale and you will make out well.

I agree about remoil though... Not good for an AR. My go to CLP is Slip2000.

Metal god · May 24, 2014, 11:02 PM

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...m-carbine.html

Ibmikey · May 25, 2014, 07:42 AM

PSA is great and you should be able to get everything on one order. The Del Ton upper is really quality stuff also and if you order from Del Ton you can select options like 1x7 , chrome lined, rails etc. A little more expensive than PSA but quicker shipping. I have 10 PSA builds and two Del Tons built my way with mid length gas (important to me) and 1x7 twist.

Metal god · June 2, 2014, 01:45 AM

just got the upper this weekend . $770 for the complete rifle as it sits

Everything bought from PSA but the stripped lower

May 23, 2014, 08:24 PM	#1
shinwa98 Member Join Date: May 2, 2014 Posts: 16	Is this a good newbie AR-15 build/package For a while now I've been asking about guns and what to buy etc. Since I don't have all the money yet, I figured I might as well just wait longer and save more. But here is build/begginer package I put together. To any experienced AR-15 owners/builders, is this a good one? (Del-ton m4 complete build kit $480 NcStar carry handle $30 M16 Rifle cleaning kit $20 Rem oil $4) $572 w/shipping Ati omni hybrid stripped receiver $42 + FFL fee $25 Ammo (600 federal brand rounds) $270 w/shipping Total $909 Any advice is much appreciated. Thanks!

May 24, 2014, 03:36 AM	#3
Brotherbadger Senior Member Join Date: November 10, 2010 Posts: 1,149	Looks ok. I would stay away from the poly lower, especially since stripped aluminum ones can be had for pretty much the exact same price(check out PSA). __________________ Once Fired Brass, Top quality, Fast shipping, Best prices. http://300AacBrass.com/ -10% Coupon use code " badger "

May 24, 2014, 10:55 AM	#4
Metal god Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2012 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 6,876	PSA is your friend !!!! Save the money so you will be ready to buy when the PSA deal you want is in stock . There turn over rate is huge . Be patient and wait for what you want . The most you will wait is 2 weeks after you have the money and you will get a great rifle at a good price !!! I just did this PSA , Spikes build 16" Barrel length 416 Stainless steel barrel 223 Wylde Chamber 1 in 8" twist rate Lead-lapped bore M4 Feed ramps MI SS12G2 free-float Rail A2 Flash Hider Forged upper receiver T-Marks M16 Bolt Carrier HPT/MPI Carpenter 158 Bolt On a Spikes MOE lower . Total cost for the rifle is $770 delivered . I've looked around and can't find anything with those specs for less then 1k Here you go , complete AR for under $650 including the transfer fee , delivered http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...ire-lower.html http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...kit-black.html http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...ng-handle.html __________________ __________________ If Jesus had a gun , he'd probably still be alive ! I almost always write my posts regardless of content in a jovial manor and intent . If that's not how you took it , please try again . Last edited by Metal god; May 24, 2014 at 11:08 AM.

May 24, 2014, 02:45 PM	#6
Metal god Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2012 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 6,876	When shopping at PSA for your upper . Make sure it comes with the BCG ( bolt carrier group ) most of them do not now . It's not a big deal you can order it separate. The one I linked does come with . There P-TAC line is ok but I'd stick with the PSA line and parts . IMO Rem oil is garbage , it's thin and dries out fast . Break free CLP , Slip 2000 are my go to AR lube __________________ If Jesus had a gun , he'd probably still be alive ! I almost always write my posts regardless of content in a jovial manor and intent . If that's not how you took it , please try again . Last edited by Metal god; May 24, 2014 at 06:49 PM.

May 24, 2014, 07:56 PM	#7
marine6680 Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2012 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 4,594	The PSA premium line is a good deal... Wait for a sale and you will make out well. I agree about remoil though... Not good for an AR. My go to CLP is Slip2000. Last edited by marine6680; May 24, 2014 at 08:29 PM.

May 24, 2014, 01:17 AM	#2
SamNavy Senior Member Join Date: August 28, 2011 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 433	Polymer lower receivers just don't have the reputation for durability yet that I demand in a firearm. Stick with a forged lower. Palmetto State Armory has forged lowers on sale every day of the week for $49.99, and they complete classic lower kits are on sale almost every day for $149.99. They're currently having a sale w/free shipping on all their complete uppers. Stay away from their PTAC brand, it's rumored to be an all-sorts of other vendors factory rejects. Complete upper w/BCG+CH $349 http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...-handle-1.html Complete lower: $149 http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...-magazine.html You'll need a rear sight... Magpul MBUS is the universal standard, or Palmetto State sells a decent set of aluminum ones. If you're set on a carry-handle, they have one of those too. Grab a cleaning kit from your local gun-store and try to buy your ammo there unless they're still charging ridiculous prices. Now that the absurd ammo rush is over for centerfire ammo, most LGS's have their prices back inline with what's available online. If you're going to build it yourself though, you'll need an armorers wrench and a vice block. Nothing wrong with your ammo choice or the price. Don't forget magazines... I see lot of places selling non-window PMAGs and C-Products mags for $9 each. If you go with steel/aluminum, make sure they have anti-tilt followers. You can find old beat-to-death tilt-follower mags at gunshows for like $5 (they all need a rebuild) but don't do it. 5 mags is a good round number for getting started.

May 24, 2014, 11:12 AM	#5
shinwa98 Member Join Date: May 2, 2014 Posts: 16	Thanks everyone, I'll hit up PSA right away.

May 24, 2014, 11:02 PM	#8
Metal god Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2012 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 6,876	http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...m-carbine.html __________________ If Jesus had a gun , he'd probably still be alive ! I almost always write my posts regardless of content in a jovial manor and intent . If that's not how you took it , please try again .

May 25, 2014, 07:42 AM	#9
Ibmikey Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2013 Location: Now relocated to Texas Posts: 2,943	PSA is great and you should be able to get everything on one order. The Del Ton upper is really quality stuff also and if you order from Del Ton you can select options like 1x7 , chrome lined, rails etc. A little more expensive than PSA but quicker shipping. I have 10 PSA builds and two Del Tons built my way with mid length gas (important to me) and 1x7 twist.

June 2, 2014, 01:45 AM	#10
Metal god Senior Member Join Date: April 10, 2012 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 6,876	just got the upper this weekend . $770 for the complete rifle as it sits Everything bought from PSA but the stripped lower __________________ If Jesus had a gun , he'd probably still be alive ! I almost always write my posts regardless of content in a jovial manor and intent . If that's not how you took it , please try again .