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May 14, 2005, 09:34 AM | #101 | |
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This shooting was WRONG! While they have all apologized through an attorney, they should be prosecuted! PERIOD! |
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May 14, 2005, 10:14 AM | #102 | |
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There are people who won't back down no matter what, and I think he was one of those individuals. It seemed like he read posts and argued just to argue.
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May 14, 2005, 01:41 PM | #103 |
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Hey Batman...How you doing with that new CZ?
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May 14, 2005, 08:13 PM | #104 |
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The mere fact they shot one of their own, who thank god had a vest on, is proof enough this was a "sloppy" (at the least) action by the Police. That's not a knock against Police, lets get real here, we have to pay them, any victims, and may ourselves (or worse, our loved ones) be shot in this kind of situation. Why the outrage at questioning the training and techniques? Shouldn't we all insist on a safe AND effective Police force? Its silly to twist this into anything less then a screw up that needs to be addressed and corrected. If WE do a bad job at work won't we hear about it and receive feedback and/or disciplinary action? Lets get real people and intelligently address the problem instead of covering it up because of the nature of police work. We know most of the Police are good, hard working dedicated professionals, shouldn't they all be?
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May 14, 2005, 08:35 PM | #105 | ||
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Aside from telling officers "Remember what happened to officers X, Y, and Z....Don't do what they did. Make sure you don't shoot the cop that is standing on the other side of your target" How would you change training? Tell the cops to only approach suspect vehicles from the drivers side? Tell all cops on the driver side to shoot and all cops on the passener side to duck? These kinds of incidents are too dynamic to train for individually. Common sense should prevail but when there are 5 or 6 different sets of "common sense" present, these things are bound to happen sometimes through no one individual's fault. What's worse than the incident is when administration has to "blame" someone because they feel they're not doing their jobs if they can't pin responsibility on a simple cause or person after a complex event. Quote:
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May 14, 2005, 09:14 PM | #106 |
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Frank,
My statement about feedback was more related to our discussion here and how some are taking those that feel this was handled badly, to task, as if we shouldn't comment negatively because the incident involves Police. When someone, like you, cuts and pastes individual comments, in effect, parsing words, it greatly effects the original content of the post making it seem different from what was intended. I see you are skilled in this method of debate, bully for you, but I am not debating you, just making a comment/observation. I know what it (the situation) is, and isn't, and don't need to be patronized by your comments. You make quite a few suppositions yourself for someone that only knows what they read of the situation, not more indepth investigative facts. You like to parse words go debate Bill Clinton, he is a master of it. |
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May 14, 2005, 09:33 PM | #108 |
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Frank, Frank Frank,
Of course you do, I wouldn't expect anything less from you. By the way the "we" is meant to reflect all forum members, surely you can figure that out. And by the way, when's the last time an office manager shot up an SUV and a community? Who is the public servant, an office manager or a police officer? Your logic is as full of holes as a house in Compton. Last edited by PythonGuy; May 15, 2005 at 06:51 AM. |
May 14, 2005, 09:49 PM | #109 |
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Well, one good thing that will come out of this shooting is that the city of Compton will be dropping the Sheriff's department contract and starting its own police department again. Hopefully, the department's personnel will mirror the community they serve and they won't have these kinds of problems anymore...
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May 15, 2005, 08:27 AM | #110 |
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I remember a few years back in california there was a white bronco that wouldn't stop for the police, it was driven by a murder suspect and known drug user at the same high speeds of 30-35mph. He was armed and considered dangerous(4000 lb SUV). I wonder why the police didn't line up and take him out with a few hundred rounds? Would have seemed justifyed under the conditions, not much different from what happened here.
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May 15, 2005, 08:50 AM | #111 |
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I'm just guessing, but maybe because no shots had been fired and AC didn't try to run any cops over, and they were on the phone with AC and AC said the Juice had the gun to his head as if he were going to shoot himself? And the cops knew AC was driving and reasonably believed that he was not the crazy guy with the gun?
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May 15, 2005, 12:19 PM | #112 | |
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May 15, 2005, 12:35 PM | #113 |
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The way I seen it if that SUV hadn't hit the police car another 20 feet they would have been in a perfect crossfire then there could have been some dead cops.Don't even want to talk about the shooting skills.All it takes is one well aimed shot not 120 poor shots could I do it or any of use I'm not sure.
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