700 thumbknuckle

zach_ · November 8, 2014, 06:33 PM

Does anybody else have a constant sore on their right thumb knuckle closest to the tip of the thumb from brushing the pic rail when loading their remmy 700?

Snyper · November 9, 2014, 01:39 PM

Don't grasp the bolt with your thumb.

Use the palm to push it up, your fingers to pull it back, and the heel of your palm to push it forward and back down

That keeps your thumb totally out of the way, and with practice can be done very quickly

zach_ · November 10, 2014, 01:30 PM

I am brushing it against the rail when pushing the bullets down into the magazine. I have weaver rail on on a short action. The thumb knuckle never really heals before I knock off the tender area again. I guess I could round off the edge, but I am afraid I will botch it. It is an exposed part that would scream "look what I did to my gun".

It only took one time of pinching my thumb between the bolt and the scope to alter the way I open the bolt to chamber a round.

Polinese · November 10, 2014, 02:07 PM

I don't have that problem but all my short actions are intermediate compared to the short remington. You could try a 2 piece base or try to alter the way you push them into the magazine as to not bump your knuckle on the rail.

Mobuck · November 10, 2014, 06:42 PM

If you have that much problem, definitely switch to two piece bases. Not sure I've ever heard of such a malady but guess it is out there.

Snyper · November 10, 2014, 09:00 PM

That's why I like 2 piece bases.

I wouldn't hesitate to cut out a portion over the loading area if you plan to keep the current base.

Just call it a "custom mount"

zach_ · November 10, 2014, 11:18 PM

I guess I have a short neck or something. I have to add the pic rails to both of my 700's to get the scopes back far enough to get my eye relief correct. I was told by an R.O. that helps me out with these type of situations that a 20 moa rail will provide a better base than the 2 piece variety. My other option is having my LOP adjusted by a smith. I don't want to do that.

Mobuck · November 11, 2014, 01:59 PM

"I was told by an R.O. that helps me out with these type of situations that a 20 moa rail will provide a better base than the 2 piece variety"

Why would you use a "20MOA rail" unless you need the extra elevation for long range use?

zach_ · November 11, 2014, 09:23 PM

The rail allows me to place the front scope ring further back, partially covering the opening to the magazine. Without the rail I can't get the scopes that I have far enough to the rear. The only flat (not 20 moa) rails that I found were the high dollar variety. I did not want to pay $149.00 or more for a superthrowdownblackopstach pic rail. The $40.00 aluminum rails work fine. I think that the rail improves the appearance of the rifles. I had to cut the rail that holds the 3-9 40 as it was too long to allow the scope to mount far enough back without ridiculously high rings.

reynolds357 · November 11, 2014, 09:31 PM

My problem usually is I can not get the scopes far enough forward.

**44 AMP** · November 12, 2014, 01:47 AM

I don't have any trouble loading my model 600s, but then they don't have "rails", just the standard Weaver scope base.

zach_ · November 12, 2014, 08:12 AM

What exactly is the difference between a weaver rail, and a pic rail? Potato/Potato?

Snyper · November 15, 2014, 02:27 PM

Quote:

What exactly is the difference between a weaver rail, and a pic rail? Potato/Potato?

They are very similar:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picatinny_rail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weaver_rail_mount

A Picatinny is the "improved" military version of the Weaver

The OP's problem could easily be solved with 2 piece bases and some extension rings

phwe9774 · November 16, 2014, 05:22 AM

I have a Remy 78 (cheap version of the 700, it actually has a lot of 700 parts that I've put on in the last year) with the long action. Do you have the long or short action? I don't know if long or short action would make any difference but I use a one piece mount made by DNZ and I haven't hit my knuckle once.

zach_ · November 16, 2014, 10:32 PM

See post 9

November 8, 2014, 06:33 PM	#1
zach_ Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2014 Location: DFW north Posts: 377	700 thumbknuckle Does anybody else have a constant sore on their right thumb knuckle closest to the tip of the thumb from brushing the pic rail when loading their remmy 700? __________________ Z

November 9, 2014, 01:39 PM	#2
Snyper Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2013 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 3,047	Don't grasp the bolt with your thumb. Use the palm to push it up, your fingers to pull it back, and the heel of your palm to push it forward and back down That keeps your thumb totally out of the way, and with practice can be done very quickly __________________ One shot, one kill

November 10, 2014, 01:30 PM	#3
zach_ Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2014 Location: DFW north Posts: 377	I am brushing it against the rail when pushing the bullets down into the magazine. I have weaver rail on on a short action. The thumb knuckle never really heals before I knock off the tender area again. I guess I could round off the edge, but I am afraid I will botch it. It is an exposed part that would scream "look what I did to my gun". It only took one time of pinching my thumb between the bolt and the scope to alter the way I open the bolt to chamber a round. __________________ Z

November 10, 2014, 09:00 PM	#6
Snyper Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2013 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 3,047	That's why I like 2 piece bases. I wouldn't hesitate to cut out a portion over the loading area if you plan to keep the current base. Just call it a "custom mount" __________________ One shot, one kill

November 10, 2014, 11:18 PM	#7
zach_ Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2014 Location: DFW north Posts: 377	I guess I have a short neck or something. I have to add the pic rails to both of my 700's to get the scopes back far enough to get my eye relief correct. I was told by an R.O. that helps me out with these type of situations that a 20 moa rail will provide a better base than the 2 piece variety. My other option is having my LOP adjusted by a smith. I don't want to do that. __________________ Z

November 10, 2014, 02:07 PM	#4
Polinese Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2010 Posts: 949	I don't have that problem but all my short actions are intermediate compared to the short remington. You could try a 2 piece base or try to alter the way you push them into the magazine as to not bump your knuckle on the rail.

November 10, 2014, 06:42 PM	#5
Mobuck Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Posts: 6,846	If you have that much problem, definitely switch to two piece bases. Not sure I've ever heard of such a malady but guess it is out there.

November 11, 2014, 01:59 PM	#8
Mobuck Junior member Join Date: February 2, 2010 Posts: 6,846	"I was told by an R.O. that helps me out with these type of situations that a 20 moa rail will provide a better base than the 2 piece variety" Why would you use a "20MOA rail" unless you need the extra elevation for long range use?

November 11, 2014, 09:23 PM	#9
zach_ Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2014 Location: DFW north Posts: 377	The rail allows me to place the front scope ring further back, partially covering the opening to the magazine. Without the rail I can't get the scopes that I have far enough to the rear. The only flat (not 20 moa) rails that I found were the high dollar variety. I did not want to pay $149.00 or more for a superthrowdownblackopstach pic rail. The $40.00 aluminum rails work fine. I think that the rail improves the appearance of the rifles. I had to cut the rail that holds the 3-9 40 as it was too long to allow the scope to mount far enough back without ridiculously high rings. __________________ Z Last edited by zach_; November 11, 2014 at 09:35 PM. Reason: left out line

November 11, 2014, 09:31 PM	#10
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,165	My problem usually is I can not get the scopes far enough forward.

November 12, 2014, 01:47 AM	#11
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,833	I don't have any trouble loading my model 600s, but then they don't have "rails", just the standard Weaver scope base. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

November 12, 2014, 08:12 AM	#12
zach_ Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2014 Location: DFW north Posts: 377	What exactly is the difference between a weaver rail, and a pic rail? Potato/Potato? __________________ Z

November 16, 2014, 05:22 AM	#14
phwe9774 Member Join Date: February 17, 2014 Posts: 67	I have a Remy 78 (cheap version of the 700, it actually has a lot of 700 parts that I've put on in the last year) with the long action. Do you have the long or short action? I don't know if long or short action would make any difference but I use a one piece mount made by DNZ and I haven't hit my knuckle once.

November 16, 2014, 10:32 PM	#15
zach_ Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2014 Location: DFW north Posts: 377	See post 9 __________________ Z