After Market 1911 Frames

Rock · September 12, 1999, 11:44 AM

Of these available 1911 frames. McCormick - Caspian - Wilson - Les Baer - Entreprise.
Can anyone tell me who actually makes them?
I belive Les Baer and McCormick manufacture, with McCormick providing Kimber etc. Any help would be appreciated

George Stringer · September 12, 1999, 10:43 PM

Rock, unless something has changed they all manufacture their own frames. McCormick does make Kimbers because Chip McCormick is Kimber. I have heard that he also makes some for Wilson but I don't know that to be true. George

Daniel Watters · September 13, 1999, 09:04 AM

To be more precise, Kimber makes the McCormick, Wilson (current), and Nowlin frames. Kimber machines them from forgings produced by one of Smith & Wesson's side operations.

Earlier Wilson frames were made by Caspian. I understand that Caspian's wide-body frame is cast by Ruger's Pine Tree division. Whether this is also true of their single-stack frames is not known.

The forged frames used by Rock River and Les Baer reportedly come from a single source.

Entreprise's source for their frame castings is not known to me.

[This message has been edited by Daniel Watters (edited September 13, 1999).]

Rock · September 13, 1999, 04:55 PM

Daniel Watters - You say the Baer frames are from the same source as the Caspian wide-body
frames? Or the Kimber?
Thanks to you and George Stringer
Rock

Daniel Watters · September 13, 1999, 05:37 PM

No, I was being unclear. The Les Baer and Rock River frames are produced by the same sub-contractor. To the best of my knowledge, they are unrelated to any of the other frames on market.

September 12, 1999, 11:44 AM	#1
Rock Member Join Date: July 2, 1999 Posts: 25	Of these available 1911 frames. McCormick - Caspian - Wilson - Les Baer - Entreprise. Can anyone tell me who actually makes them? I belive Les Baer and McCormick manufacture, with McCormick providing Kimber etc. Any help would be appreciated

September 12, 1999, 10:43 PM	#2
George Stringer Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 12, 1998 Location: Earlington KY Posts: 2,299	Rock, unless something has changed they all manufacture their own frames. McCormick does make Kimbers because Chip McCormick is Kimber. I have heard that he also makes some for Wilson but I don't know that to be true. George

September 13, 1999, 09:04 AM	#3
Daniel Watters Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 1999 Location: USA Posts: 644	To be more precise, Kimber makes the McCormick, Wilson (current), and Nowlin frames. Kimber machines them from forgings produced by one of Smith & Wesson's side operations. Earlier Wilson frames were made by Caspian. I understand that Caspian's wide-body frame is cast by Ruger's Pine Tree division. Whether this is also true of their single-stack frames is not known. The forged frames used by Rock River and Les Baer reportedly come from a single source. Entreprise's source for their frame castings is not known to me. [This message has been edited by Daniel Watters (edited September 13, 1999).]

September 13, 1999, 04:55 PM	#4
Rock Member Join Date: July 2, 1999 Posts: 25	Daniel Watters - You say the Baer frames are from the same source as the Caspian wide-body frames? Or the Kimber? Thanks to you and George Stringer Rock

September 13, 1999, 05:37 PM	#5
Daniel Watters Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 1999 Location: USA Posts: 644	No, I was being unclear. The Les Baer and Rock River frames are produced by the same sub-contractor. To the best of my knowledge, they are unrelated to any of the other frames on market.