Looking For Help With 44 Mag H110 Loading

Haystack · April 1, 2009, 11:44 AM

I bought some Hornaday 240 gr swc, and can't find any load data for these with H110. I'm kind of new to reloading, and haven't really done any experimenting with anything that's not in a reloading book. Can I use the load data for 240 gr JHP? Based on what I have seen I was thinking of starting with 23 gr H110. Does this sound about right? I would like to use H110 because that's what I have on hand. The gun is a Super Blackhawk.

Thank You in advance for any help.

AlaskaMike · April 1, 2009, 12:01 PM

Sounds like you're right on the money with that 23 grain load. Generally speaking you can use jacketed data with cast bullets.

Good luck, and welcome to the forum!
Mike

Dingoboyx · April 1, 2009, 12:05 PM

Fill 'em up with Trail Boss

leave room for the projectile of course

Muzza

**Unclenick** · April 1, 2009, 12:07 PM

No. There is no safe load of H110 with those swaged lead SWC bullets. That is why you don't see one listed. You have to load those swaged lead bullets to lower pressures and velocities than jacketed bullets to avoid stripping them and leading your barrel heavily. They can also deform in the forcing cone in a way that actually causes higher pressure than a jacketed bullet does under some conditions. H110 has the funny property that it can't be loaded down much in a revolver without risk of squibbing out and sticking a bullet in the barrel. That's why you see the warning not to reduce it more than 3% on the Hodgdon site.

You will not want to try to push those lead SWC's beyond about 1000 fps. I recommend you get a can of Hodgdon Universal or IMR Trail Boss. Try around 8 grains of either. You can, as Dingoboyx says, simply fill the case level with the bottom of the bullet using Trail Boss. It is very clean burning and is for lead bullet use ONLY. Just perfect in this application.

AlaskaMike · April 1, 2009, 12:12 PM

Good catch Nick! Wow, I feel really stupid now--I saw "Hornady 240 gr. SWC" and automatically thought "cast 240 gr. SWC", but Hornady only makes soft swaged SWCs.

My sincere apologies. I fully agree those would be great with Trail Boss.

Mike

Haystack · April 1, 2009, 12:37 PM

I do have a little Unique left. Would this be better to use? If so, how much? These Hornadays aren't in either of my books.

Primevalpapa · April 1, 2009, 12:45 PM

What Unclenick said.....
That 23gr of H110 would be about 1300fps load with a jacketed bullet which is way to fast for swaged lead.

I tend to use Red Dot for this purpose but the powder selection is only because of the shotgun shells that I also load. 6.5gr of Red Dot or Promo gets about a 900fps plinker that is great for practice. Very economical.

Save that H110 for the hard cast/jacketed rounds or your 410 shotgun.

Primevalpapa · April 1, 2009, 12:50 PM

The Hornady book I have shows a 240gr SWC with 6.6gr Unique; WLP primer at about 900fps but.........

You really need to cross check all numbers given on any website with a reloading manual yourself. We all have seen incorrect info, typos etc.

AlaskaMike · April 1, 2009, 01:36 PM

Quote:

You really need to cross check all numbers given on any website with a reloading manual yourself. We all have seen incorrect info, typos etc.

That's not limited to websites--I have a couple manuals that contain typos in the load info. Rare, but it happens.

Mike

April 1, 2009, 11:44 AM	#1
Haystack Junior Member Join Date: December 21, 2005 Posts: 10	Looking For Help With 44 Mag H110 Loading I bought some Hornaday 240 gr swc, and can't find any load data for these with H110. I'm kind of new to reloading, and haven't really done any experimenting with anything that's not in a reloading book. Can I use the load data for 240 gr JHP? Based on what I have seen I was thinking of starting with 23 gr H110. Does this sound about right? I would like to use H110 because that's what I have on hand. The gun is a Super Blackhawk. Thank You in advance for any help.

April 1, 2009, 12:05 PM	#3
Dingoboyx Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2009 Location: South East Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,513	Fill 'em up with Trail Boss leave room for the projectile of course Muzza __________________ Muzza If you cant blind them with brilliance, Baffle them with BS Be alert...... there is a shortage of LERTs

April 1, 2009, 12:07 PM	#4
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,063	DANGER! No. There is no safe load of H110 with those swaged lead SWC bullets. That is why you don't see one listed. You have to load those swaged lead bullets to lower pressures and velocities than jacketed bullets to avoid stripping them and leading your barrel heavily. They can also deform in the forcing cone in a way that actually causes higher pressure than a jacketed bullet does under some conditions. H110 has the funny property that it can't be loaded down much in a revolver without risk of squibbing out and sticking a bullet in the barrel. That's why you see the warning not to reduce it more than 3% on the Hodgdon site. You will not want to try to push those lead SWC's beyond about 1000 fps. I recommend you get a can of Hodgdon Universal or IMR Trail Boss. Try around 8 grains of either. You can, as Dingoboyx says, simply fill the case level with the bottom of the bullet using Trail Boss. It is very clean burning and is for lead bullet use ONLY. Just perfect in this application. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle Last edited by Unclenick; April 1, 2009 at 12:34 PM. Reason: DANGER!

April 1, 2009, 12:01 PM	#2
AlaskaMike Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2005 Posts: 941	Sounds like you're right on the money with that 23 grain load. Generally speaking you can use jacketed data with cast bullets. Good luck, and welcome to the forum! Mike

April 1, 2009, 12:12 PM	#5
AlaskaMike Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2005 Posts: 941	Good catch Nick! Wow, I feel really stupid now--I saw "Hornady 240 gr. SWC" and automatically thought "cast 240 gr. SWC", but Hornady only makes soft swaged SWCs. My sincere apologies. I fully agree those would be great with Trail Boss. Mike

April 1, 2009, 12:37 PM	#6
Haystack Junior Member Join Date: December 21, 2005 Posts: 10	I do have a little Unique left. Would this be better to use? If so, how much? These Hornadays aren't in either of my books.

April 1, 2009, 12:45 PM	#7
Primevalpapa Member Join Date: December 24, 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 40	What Unclenick said..... That 23gr of H110 would be about 1300fps load with a jacketed bullet which is way to fast for swaged lead. I tend to use Red Dot for this purpose but the powder selection is only because of the shotgun shells that I also load. 6.5gr of Red Dot or Promo gets about a 900fps plinker that is great for practice. Very economical. Save that H110 for the hard cast/jacketed rounds or your 410 shotgun.

April 1, 2009, 12:50 PM	#8
Primevalpapa Member Join Date: December 24, 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 40	The Hornady book I have shows a 240gr SWC with 6.6gr Unique; WLP primer at about 900fps but......... You really need to cross check all numbers given on any website with a reloading manual yourself. We all have seen incorrect info, typos etc.