The Deer Hunter with Robert De Niro

gdeal · August 31, 2009, 12:29 PM

1. What make and model rifle was he using when he was hunting that buck and let him go?
2. What caliber round was he probably using?
3. With an old mature buck like that, the head with horns might be a great trophy but the meat probably wouldn't be that good, correct?

Buzzcook · August 31, 2009, 12:57 PM

It's De Niro,

bcarver · August 31, 2009, 01:12 PM

It appears to be left handed but I am sure that is a camera effect.
Considering he was a blue collar guy and it was in the 70's I would guess a 30-06.
That animal was a red stag if I remember correctly and cannot be found anywhere near where they were located.

Younger meat is more tender but good cleaning is more important to having good cuts.
A well harvested and prepared old buck can be great eating but will not be as good as a well harvested and prepared yearling.

The location was in Washington(mount baker) but the story was set in Pennsylvania(allengany mountains).

davlandrum · August 31, 2009, 01:14 PM

I didn't realize it was a lefty action.

1. No idea, sorry. That should be pretty easy for someone here.

2. Even less idea, could have been anything since I would bet it is a prop gun anyway. If I was going to make up an answer, I would say 30-06.

3. Meat would be fine if handled correctly. Maybe not as tender, but still fine eating.

Of course if you strapped it to the hood of your cadillac to get it home.....

VaFisher · August 31, 2009, 06:57 PM

Looks like a Remington 700 model.

MLeake · August 31, 2009, 07:09 PM

... and VA, WV, and MD.

The mountain ranges in Washington are the Olympic and Cascade ranges.

Not sure where this was shot, but the story was set in PA.

Sarge · August 31, 2009, 07:11 PM

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Deer_Hunter%2C_The

simonkenton · August 31, 2009, 07:18 PM

That was a big buck!
It wasn't a whitetail.
Whatever it was, it would not be found in the Pennsylvania mountains.

Artistic license, I suppose.

GeauxTide · August 31, 2009, 07:36 PM

Remington 700 LH.

Johnny Guest · August 31, 2009, 07:40 PM

I believe the rifle De Niro used in the film is a Remington 700BDL. During the 1970s, Remington offered the left-hand version in .30'06, .270, and possibly 7mm Remington magnum.

Interestingly, Internet Movie Firearms Database is in error on this particular, calling the rifle a Winchester Model 70.

Even a comparison of the De Niro images with the IMFDB generic illustration of the Model 70 alone shows the differences in the two.

The rifle used by De Niro shows the stock with a Monte Carlo cheekpiece and dark foreend tip and pistol grip cap. It also has the distinctive rear iron sight installed on the then-current Remington 700s.

Also, De Niro's rifle does not show the trademark Model 70 rotating safety.

Hope this provides some of what you wanted.

ZeroJunk · August 31, 2009, 07:48 PM

The ebony caps on the XTR's of that era slanted back, the Remingtons were straight up and down as in the photo.

wyobohunter · August 31, 2009, 10:30 PM

great movie though

Zilmo · August 31, 2009, 10:57 PM

What a crappy movie.

Kreyzhorse · September 1, 2009, 07:19 AM

Quote:

What a crappy movie.

I'm with you on that one. Total crapfest.

MLeake · September 1, 2009, 08:10 AM

... but it's one of the most depressing films I've sat through.

bcarver · September 1, 2009, 02:48 PM

I am no expert.
but my first guest was remington.
the Sight look so much like the "Williams" sight on one of my Remingtons.

Jack O'Conner · September 1, 2009, 08:03 PM

Most of the steel mill and town scenes were shot in Mingo Junction, Ohio. A crappy little rust belt town on the Ohio River just south of Steubenville.

Allegheny Mts or Appalachian Mts have no resemblance to the snow capped mts seen in the movie. It's a Hollywood fraud.

Jack

James R. Burke · September 3, 2009, 06:49 PM

Not awhole lot of knowledege on deer hunting.

Fat White Boy · September 3, 2009, 10:48 PM

+1 for Johnny...

444 · September 4, 2009, 07:38 AM

I was working in Steubenville when they were filming the movie.
I always heard some of those hunt scenes were filmed right across the river in West Virginia but I don't know that for sure. In fact, if you go on Google earth, when you put your mouse over the little blue boxes just north of Weirton WV it says that the Deer Hunter was filmed there.

It's nice to hear that the area I grew up in is crappy.

Jimdo · September 4, 2009, 05:01 PM

To the guy that added the imfdb link, I applaud you.
I didn't know such a thing existed. Thanks.

Jack O'Conner · September 9, 2009, 08:11 PM

444:

Steubenville tried to attract tourists with their wall murals back in 1980's. Did it ever pan out? Years ago, I hunted with my Dad at a 10 acre orchard near Wintersville. Steep country and plenty of deer.

Mingo Junction is a town of peeling paint, rusted out cars, and closed businesses. The Follansbee coke plant fillled the air with sulfur odor from coal crushing operations. Mingo Jct. seems like a crappy town to me. But some people probably love it there.

Further north, is the small town of Calcutta, Ohio. Dad used to call it the tip of the spear. He was referring to West Virginia right across the Ohio River. Wooded areas outside of Calcutta looked promising but I've never hunted there.

Jack

444 · September 9, 2009, 08:55 PM

That whole area is dead.
For a century or so they manufactured steel. Steel towns arn't senic.
But the steel industry moved over-seas in the 70s. They have basically nothing to offer. To my mind, they never lost the steel mindset. When I am back there now, I see that they don't know how to make the most of what they have. Instead of trying to be like other cities, they need to take what they have and make it work. It is a beautiful place in my opinion. Compared to where I live now, the people are almost saints.

Yeah, if you are looking for glitz and glamor, then you arn't going to find it there.

simonkenton · September 10, 2009, 07:50 AM

I live in the Appalachian Mountains. In fact, the highest mountain east of the Mississippi is right outside my window, I am looking at it right now.

I don't know where they filmed those hunting scenes, but they had to cross either the Mississippi River, or the Atlantic Ocean to do it.

Johnny Guest · September 10, 2009, 08:46 AM

See Internet Movie DataBase, The Deer Hunter

toward the bottom of the first screen, there's a section called Fun Stuff. Then, under "Goofs," they include:

Quote:

Errors in geography: The hunting scenes supposedly taking place in the Appalachian Range are obviously filmed elsewhere: The Appalachians are a smooth rolling range, but the scenes show towering, jagged peaks. The scenes were filmed in the Cascade Range, clear across the country.

For more specifics, look at the left margin, under "Other Info," click on "filming locations." Amongst MANY other locales, it shows:

Quote:

Mount Baker, Washington, USA
(Allegheny Mountains deer hunt)

Nooksack Falls, Mount Baker, Washington, USA
(Michael releases the deer)

Whatcom County, Washington, USA

Me, I wonder if there's some back story as to why they used an elk for most of the deer scenes. Could it have been a foundling, adopted into a family of deer?

August 31, 2009, 12:29 PM	#1
gdeal Senior Member Join Date: October 30, 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 748	The Deer Hunter with Robert De Niro 1. What make and model rifle was he using when he was hunting that buck and let him go? 2. What caliber round was he probably using? 3. With an old mature buck like that, the head with horns might be a great trophy but the meat probably wouldn't be that good, correct? Last edited by gdeal; August 31, 2009 at 12:59 PM.

August 31, 2009, 01:12 PM	#3
bcarver Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2007 Location: Jackson,Mississippi Posts: 838	Left handed It appears to be left handed but I am sure that is a camera effect. Considering he was a blue collar guy and it was in the 70's I would guess a 30-06. That animal was a red stag if I remember correctly and cannot be found anywhere near where they were located. Younger meat is more tender but good cleaning is more important to having good cuts. A well harvested and prepared old buck can be great eating but will not be as good as a well harvested and prepared yearling. The location was in Washington(mount baker) but the story was set in Pennsylvania(allengany mountains). Last edited by bcarver; August 31, 2009 at 07:33 PM. Reason: info from mleake

August 31, 2009, 01:14 PM	#4
davlandrum Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2006 Location: Lane County Oregon Posts: 2,547	I didn't realize it was a lefty action. 1. No idea, sorry. That should be pretty easy for someone here. 2. Even less idea, could have been anything since I would bet it is a prop gun anyway. If I was going to make up an answer, I would say 30-06. 3. Meat would be fine if handled correctly. Maybe not as tender, but still fine eating. Of course if you strapped it to the hood of your cadillac to get it home..... __________________ U.S Army, Retired Ethics is knowing the difference between what you have a right to do and what is right to do. -Potter Stewart

August 31, 2009, 07:09 PM	#6
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	The Alleghenies are in Pennsylvania... ... and VA, WV, and MD. The mountain ranges in Washington are the Olympic and Cascade ranges. Not sure where this was shot, but the story was set in PA.

August 31, 2009, 07:11 PM	#7
Sarge Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2002 Location: MO Posts: 5,457	http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Deer_Hunter%2C_The __________________ People were smarter before the Internet, or imbeciles were harder to notice.

August 31, 2009, 12:57 PM	#2
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	It's De Niro,

August 31, 2009, 06:57 PM	#5
VaFisher Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2006 Posts: 596	Looks like a Remington 700 model.

August 31, 2009, 07:18 PM	#8
simonkenton Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2008 Posts: 891	That was a big buck! It wasn't a whitetail. Whatever it was, it would not be found in the Pennsylvania mountains. Artistic license, I suppose.

August 31, 2009, 07:36 PM	#9
GeauxTide Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Helena, AL Posts: 4,423	Remington 700 LH.

August 31, 2009, 07:48 PM	#11
ZeroJunk Senior Member Join Date: August 14, 2006 Location: Browns Summit NC Posts: 2,589	The ebony caps on the XTR's of that era slanted back, the Remingtons were straight up and down as in the photo.

August 31, 2009, 10:30 PM	#12
wyobohunter Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2008 Location: Back in Wyoming Posts: 1,125	I dunno about the rifle great movie though

August 31, 2009, 10:57 PM	#13
Zilmo Senior Member Join Date: May 30, 2009 Location: At home. Posts: 369	What a crappy movie.

September 1, 2009, 08:10 AM	#15
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	Not sure I'd call it crappy... ... but it's one of the most depressing films I've sat through.

September 1, 2009, 02:48 PM	#16
bcarver Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2007 Location: Jackson,Mississippi Posts: 838	i'm with jonny I am no expert. but my first guest was remington. the Sight look so much like the "Williams" sight on one of my Remingtons.

September 1, 2009, 08:03 PM	#17
Jack O'Conner Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2005 Location: Manatee County, Florida Posts: 1,976	Most of the steel mill and town scenes were shot in Mingo Junction, Ohio. A crappy little rust belt town on the Ohio River just south of Steubenville. Allegheny Mts or Appalachian Mts have no resemblance to the snow capped mts seen in the movie. It's a Hollywood fraud. Jack __________________ Fire up the grill! Deer hunting IS NOT catch and release.

September 3, 2009, 06:49 PM	#18
James R. Burke Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2009 Location: U.P. of Mich/Quinnesec Posts: 1,897	Not awhole lot of knowledege on deer hunting.

September 3, 2009, 10:48 PM	#19
Fat White Boy Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2005 Posts: 1,276	+1 for Johnny...

September 4, 2009, 07:38 AM	#20
444 Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2000 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,968	I was working in Steubenville when they were filming the movie. I always heard some of those hunt scenes were filmed right across the river in West Virginia but I don't know that for sure. In fact, if you go on Google earth, when you put your mouse over the little blue boxes just north of Weirton WV it says that the Deer Hunter was filmed there. It's nice to hear that the area I grew up in is crappy. __________________ You know the rest. In the books you have read How the British Regulars fired and fled, How the farmers gave them ball for ball, From behind each fence and farmyard wall, Chasing the redcoats down the lane, Then crossing the fields to emerge again Under the trees at the turn of the road, And only pausing to fire and load.

September 4, 2009, 05:01 PM	#21
Jimdo Member Join Date: May 21, 2009 Posts: 24	To the guy that added the imfdb link, I applaud you. I didn't know such a thing existed. Thanks.

September 9, 2009, 08:11 PM	#22
Jack O'Conner Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2005 Location: Manatee County, Florida Posts: 1,976	444: Steubenville tried to attract tourists with their wall murals back in 1980's. Did it ever pan out? Years ago, I hunted with my Dad at a 10 acre orchard near Wintersville. Steep country and plenty of deer. Mingo Junction is a town of peeling paint, rusted out cars, and closed businesses. The Follansbee coke plant fillled the air with sulfur odor from coal crushing operations. Mingo Jct. seems like a crappy town to me. But some people probably love it there. Further north, is the small town of Calcutta, Ohio. Dad used to call it the tip of the spear. He was referring to West Virginia right across the Ohio River. Wooded areas outside of Calcutta looked promising but I've never hunted there. Jack __________________ Fire up the grill! Deer hunting IS NOT catch and release.

September 9, 2009, 08:55 PM	#23
444 Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2000 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,968	That whole area is dead. For a century or so they manufactured steel. Steel towns arn't senic. But the steel industry moved over-seas in the 70s. They have basically nothing to offer. To my mind, they never lost the steel mindset. When I am back there now, I see that they don't know how to make the most of what they have. Instead of trying to be like other cities, they need to take what they have and make it work. It is a beautiful place in my opinion. Compared to where I live now, the people are almost saints. Yeah, if you are looking for glitz and glamor, then you arn't going to find it there. __________________ You know the rest. In the books you have read How the British Regulars fired and fled, How the farmers gave them ball for ball, From behind each fence and farmyard wall, Chasing the redcoats down the lane, Then crossing the fields to emerge again Under the trees at the turn of the road, And only pausing to fire and load.

September 10, 2009, 07:50 AM	#24
simonkenton Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2008 Posts: 891	I live in the Appalachian Mountains. In fact, the highest mountain east of the Mississippi is right outside my window, I am looking at it right now. I don't know where they filmed those hunting scenes, but they had to cross either the Mississippi River, or the Atlantic Ocean to do it.

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