410 / 45 ?

billythekid007 · December 27, 2008, 04:58 PM

If i get a sxs .410.. can I shoot 45lc shells in it?

Dave McC · December 27, 2008, 07:45 PM

No.

Bore and projectile diameter on 45LC is a nominal .452-452". Bore on a 410 is, surprise, .410". Imagine pushing a golf ball down a garden hose.

Pressures would go wild, and chances of a blowup are too good.

billythekid007 · December 27, 2008, 10:35 PM

so... I guess I am just thinking backwards.. so if you had a 45lc barrel... or "sxs" you could then put .410 in it.. but not the opposite. right?

Bill DeShivs · December 28, 2008, 01:39 AM

Wrong.
The gun must be designed and built to take both cartridges.

scorpion_tyr · December 28, 2008, 03:37 AM

It's never a very good idea to put any kind of bullet into a firearm other than the one it was designed to fire. If you don't know, look at the barrel. If it's not imprinted there, don't fire it.

There are firearms that can fire muliple calibers. Such as many revolvers can fire both .357 and .38 special. The is are a few revolvers that can fire .45 LC or .410 shells. They are designed to do so.

9mmhpfan · December 28, 2008, 01:20 PM

back when I was in high school I knew a guy who used to shoot 44 magnums through his 410 single shot....not sure whatever happened to him. He might have blown himself up with stunts like that.

USA123456789 · December 28, 2008, 01:32 PM

My father has recently bought a Tarus pistol that can shoot .45 pistol ammunition and can also shoot shell of the 410 shotgun. It is amazing but the pattern of the 410 isnt like the pattern of my XT but it'll be able to take squirell at 20 yds. The 45 has a great group at 30 yds it shoots an 2 in group around the center.

hogdogs · December 28, 2008, 02:38 PM

USA, That is a taurus "judge" and it isn't designed for .45 pistol ammo. It is designed for the .45 colt ammo. ACP is rimless pistol ammo and if it can be used would require a "moon clip".
Brent

BigJimP · December 28, 2008, 06:52 PM

I actually have a deringer / 6" barrel - that is chambered and built to shoot either .45 Long Colt or .410 shotshell. I inherited it from my wife's older brother when he passed away .... and its a terrible little gun with about a 10lb trigger pull / but manual specifically says it can shoot both.

The Taurus Judge is another weapon chambered in .45 Long Colt or .410 shotgun shell - and presumably they have built it to specs allowing for the pressures, etc.

I would not shoot . 45 Long Colt in a .410 shotgun / partly for pressures and I don't know for sure if the shotgun barrel can handle the pressures of the .45 long colt or not / but mostly because of the length of a shotgun barrel - I don't know how much damage that bullet in a .45 long colt may do going down the barrel.

Keltyke · December 30, 2008, 12:36 AM

The Taurus Judge does shoot .410 and .45 LC equally well. The kick from the shot shells is a little intimidating, but the Taurus "Ribber" grips and weight of the gun help a lot. It's a lot of fun to shoot. We like it for a "last stand" HD gun, shooting .410 000 buck twice, then three rounds of .45 LC JHP.

USA123456789 · December 30, 2008, 06:05 PM

The gun is so lite that i could through it from my house to china. Its a 2 inch barrel but the pattern isnt so great but it makes a great concealed carry firearm though. I think the judge is a great firearm all and all.

December 27, 2008, 04:58 PM	#1
billythekid007 Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2007 Posts: 178	410 / 45 ? If i get a sxs .410.. can I shoot 45lc shells in it?

December 28, 2008, 01:39 AM	#4
Bill DeShivs Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2006 Posts: 10,981	Wrong. The gun must be designed and built to take both cartridges. __________________ Bill DeShivs, Master Cutler www.billdeshivs.com

December 28, 2008, 03:37 AM	#5
scorpion_tyr Senior Member Join Date: November 10, 2008 Location: East Texas Posts: 1,326	It's never a very good idea to put any kind of bullet into a firearm other than the one it was designed to fire. If you don't know, look at the barrel. If it's not imprinted there, don't fire it. There are firearms that can fire muliple calibers. Such as many revolvers can fire both .357 and .38 special. The is are a few revolvers that can fire .45 LC or .410 shells. They are designed to do so. __________________ “Nature intended me for the tranquil pursuits of science, by rendering them my supreme delight.” - Thomas Jefferson

December 28, 2008, 01:32 PM	#7
USA123456789 Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2008 Location: Somewhere Posts: 123	My father has recently bought a Tarus pistol that can shoot .45 pistol ammunition and can also shoot shell of the 410 shotgun. It is amazing but the pattern of the 410 isnt like the pattern of my XT but it'll be able to take squirell at 20 yds. The 45 has a great group at 30 yds it shoots an 2 in group around the center. __________________ You can never have to many hulls but, the man that dies with the most hulls wins USA USA USA USA

December 30, 2008, 06:05 PM	#11
USA123456789 Senior Member Join Date: October 26, 2008 Location: Somewhere Posts: 123	The gun is so lite that i could through it from my house to china. Its a 2 inch barrel but the pattern isnt so great but it makes a great concealed carry firearm though. I think the judge is a great firearm all and all. __________________ You can never have to many hulls but, the man that dies with the most hulls wins USA USA USA USA

December 27, 2008, 07:45 PM	#2
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	No. Bore and projectile diameter on 45LC is a nominal .452-452". Bore on a 410 is, surprise, .410". Imagine pushing a golf ball down a garden hose. Pressures would go wild, and chances of a blowup are too good.

December 27, 2008, 10:35 PM	#3
billythekid007 Senior Member Join Date: July 23, 2007 Posts: 178	so... I guess I am just thinking backwards.. so if you had a 45lc barrel... or "sxs" you could then put .410 in it.. but not the opposite. right?

December 28, 2008, 01:20 PM	#6
9mmhpfan Member Join Date: May 16, 2007 Posts: 86	back when I was in high school I knew a guy who used to shoot 44 magnums through his 410 single shot....not sure whatever happened to him. He might have blown himself up with stunts like that.

December 28, 2008, 02:38 PM	#8
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	USA, That is a taurus "judge" and it isn't designed for .45 pistol ammo. It is designed for the .45 colt ammo. ACP is rimless pistol ammo and if it can be used would require a "moon clip". Brent

December 28, 2008, 06:52 PM	#9
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	I actually have a deringer / 6" barrel - that is chambered and built to shoot either .45 Long Colt or .410 shotshell. I inherited it from my wife's older brother when he passed away .... and its a terrible little gun with about a 10lb trigger pull / but manual specifically says it can shoot both. The Taurus Judge is another weapon chambered in .45 Long Colt or .410 shotgun shell - and presumably they have built it to specs allowing for the pressures, etc. I would not shoot . 45 Long Colt in a .410 shotgun / partly for pressures and I don't know for sure if the shotgun barrel can handle the pressures of the .45 long colt or not / but mostly because of the length of a shotgun barrel - I don't know how much damage that bullet in a .45 long colt may do going down the barrel.

December 30, 2008, 12:36 AM	#10
Keltyke Junior member Join Date: April 6, 2008 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 2,933	The Taurus Judge does shoot .410 and .45 LC equally well. The kick from the shot shells is a little intimidating, but the Taurus "Ribber" grips and weight of the gun help a lot. It's a lot of fun to shoot. We like it for a "last stand" HD gun, shooting .410 000 buck twice, then three rounds of .45 LC JHP.