Strangest gun you have ever fired or handled - Page 2

Skans · February 3, 2014, 12:34 PM

I like this thread!

Some strange firearms I've handled or have:

COP .357 (have)
Borchardt C-93 (handled)
Gwinn Arm Pistol (have)
Mateba semi-auto revolver (handled)
HAC-7 (have) .308 proprietary rifle made in the '80's that looks like the offspring of a FAL and and AR10.

Sevens · February 3, 2014, 02:27 PM

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I've got a custom one. 11" barrel, 30.25" OAL, 3 shot single stack mag. Fires .410, .45LC, .454 Casull .45 Schofield. Will chamber .460 Roland but I'm not trying that purely due to chamber pressures.

Hey...

If you actually run .454 Casull in that thing, .460 Rowland is a downgrade. Rowland runs at a lower peak pressure.

Microgunner · February 3, 2014, 02:59 PM

I own a Boberg XR9-S whos magazine is loaded from the back, projectile first, and the pistol pulls the cartridge from the back of the mag, lifts it up and shoves it into the chamber.

I also own a Chiappa Rhino. 357.

I used to own a .25ACP folding pen gun.

Guggmeister · February 3, 2014, 03:55 PM

Some old british breech lock blackpowder gun with carrot-sized cartridges. Henry something.

fshfindr · February 3, 2014, 07:52 PM

30 Cal. Lt. Water Cooled Machingun. In 1957

cecILL · February 4, 2014, 07:55 AM

OK. One case .45 ACP, one 1911A1, and one "grease gun". Shot the whole case.

Jo6pak · February 4, 2014, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Guggmeister

Some old british breech lock blackpowder gun with carrot-sized cartridges. Henry something.

Martini-Henry?

Falcon5NZ · February 5, 2014, 07:50 PM

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I've got a custom one. 11" barrel, 30.25" OAL, 3 shot single stack mag. Fires .410, .45LC, .454 Casull .45 Schofield. Will chamber .460 Roland but I'm not trying that purely due to chamber pressures.

Hey...

If you actually run .454 Casull in that thing, .460 Rowland is a downgrade. Rowland runs at a lower peak pressure.

Sorry Sevens I meant .460 S&W not Roland. But when I figure out my shell holder bolt, it will fire Roland. I do use .454 through it but when I'm using that it is chambered in $5 notes!

Jo6pak · February 5, 2014, 08:43 PM

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I own a Boberg XR9-S whos magazine is loaded from the back, projectile first, and the pistol pulls the cartridge from the back of the mag, lifts it up and shoves it into the chamber.

Just watched a video on this pistol. Seems like most of the odd ones are older designs when they were still trying to figure everything out. For a modern piece, that is truly a strange one there.

Skans · February 6, 2014, 09:35 AM

I have to agree that for a modern gun, the Boberg XR9-S wins "strangest gun". You can take it apart and spend a good amount of time just trying to figure out what each part does. Besides the way cartridges are pulled from the magazine and then inserted into the chamber, there are a couple other oddities about this gun:

1. The "hammer" is a square steel "flap" that fits flush with the pistol;
2. The recoil spring is offset to the side and runs about the full length of the slide;
3. Boberg has videos of how the gun will still function properly with the recoil spring/guiderod removed.
4. If you don't use the right ammo, the bullet can actually separate from the casing upon being pulled from the magazine.
5. Some parts serve dual purposes - I'm still trying to figure out what each part does.

carguychris · February 6, 2014, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jo6pak

Just watched a video on [the Boberg]. Seems like most of the odd ones are older designs when they were still trying to figure everything out. For a modern piece, that is truly a strange one there.

FWIW it's not entirely new; the Boberg's basic feed system- with the cartridges being yanked out of the rear of the magazine by "tongs", then fed forwards- is conceptually based on the Mars (or Webley-Mars) pistol, which was designed around the end of the 19th century by a Brit named Hugh Gabbet-Fairfax.

However, the Boberg fixes the Mars' primary design flaw- an ejection system that often required partial disassembly of the weapon to clear an FTE.

Skans · February 6, 2014, 12:03 PM

I would be surprised if Boberg's design was actually based on the Mars pistol. Only 80 Mars pistols were ever made and Boberg's design is quite different from what little I can tell.

carguychris · February 6, 2014, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Skans

I would be surprised if Boberg's design was actually based on the Mars pistol. Only 80 Mars pistols were ever made and Boberg's design is quite different from what little I can tell.

I wrote "conceptually based"- like how a Glock is conceptually based on a 1911.

The "backwards" feed system using "tongs" or "fingers" is about where the similarities between the Boberg and Mars begin and end- but IMHO this one similarity is significant, as it's a departure from virtually every other semi-auto pistol design.

Skans · February 6, 2014, 03:19 PM

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... like how a Glock is conceptually based on a 1911

I actually looked for (and found) a diagram of the Mars - neat gun, I wish that more than 80 were made, because I'd like to have one.

cohoskip · February 6, 2014, 04:06 PM

USMC Bazooka.

Most fun: Full auto M2 Carbine; My Thompson 1927 model

Doc TH · February 11, 2014, 05:15 PM

I wouldn't call them "strange", but I enjoyed shooting original cavalry carbine models of the trapdoor Springfield and the Remington rolling block.

lcpiper · February 11, 2014, 05:25 PM

It's a toss up, the Sterling 9mm SMG in Canada and a suppressed MAC-10 in 45ACP in Tucson. Both of course were full auto although I spent most of my time with the MAC-10 squeezing off single shots trying to hit a brick at about 20 yards, tough at first but I think with practice a guy could get it down pretty good.

feets · February 12, 2014, 09:15 AM

I've handled (fondled?) a late WW1 Mauser 20 mm anti-tank rifle as well as a WWII German quad 20 mm anti-aircraft platform.

The strangest I've fired was an H&K P7 squeeze cocker. Not exactly a rare bird but still odd.

Jbar4Ranch · February 12, 2014, 07:05 PM

COP .357 - I've never fired it, as it appears to be NIB.

WWII Liberator pistol - Appeared to have been fired when I acquired it, so I've put six rounds of reduced load, lightweight lead bullet reloads through it.

cjwils · February 12, 2014, 07:11 PM

I have fired all of these using very low pressure .22 CB caps

Jo6pak · February 12, 2014, 09:12 PM

^^Nice

SHR970 · February 12, 2014, 10:28 PM

Does a XM307 count? How about an XM312??? We had the conversion kit too.

If not, how about a full on Land Warrior System M16 circa 1993?

No????

Then it would have to be one of several FN platforms (several were prototypes) that were brought in to see if Land Warrior could be integrated with.

Almost forgot the OG Armalite AR-10 with the charging bar located in the carry handle.

1stmar · February 14, 2014, 01:17 AM

Probably an hk p7 squeeze cocker.. Nice gun, good trigger, very well made.these things are going for over 2k on gunbroker. Crazy. Not sure why they don't make them anymore.

Ozzieman · February 15, 2014, 10:50 AM

Rising M55 SMG with the folding stock.
Had the oddest fitting pistol grip to the hand that was all wood.
The metal stock looked link a coat hanger and wasn’t much stronger.
By far the dumbest loading lever every placed on a gun. In a grove in the stock under the barrel.
WAY to fast of a cycle rate.
And fun as heck, 100 rounds

RickB · February 15, 2014, 10:59 AM

My dad had an old pinfire revolver, French or Belgian probably, with a large knife blade protruding under the barrel. Pictures of them are pretty common, but I've never seen another one in the flesh.
The strangest gun I've shot was a H&K .308 rifle, the semi-auto version of the G3, shortened into a MP5-sized pistol. One of those fun-to-shoot, but what's-it-for deals.

February 3, 2014, 02:59 PM	#28
Microgunner Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 3,324	I own a Boberg XR9-S whos magazine is loaded from the back, projectile first, and the pistol pulls the cartridge from the back of the mag, lifts it up and shoves it into the chamber. I also own a Chiappa Rhino. 357. I used to own a .25ACP folding pen gun. __________________ *Proud NRA Benefactor Member* Last edited by Microgunner; February 3, 2014 at 03:07 PM.

February 3, 2014, 07:52 PM	#30
fshfindr Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2013 Location: South Jersey Posts: 188	30 Cal. Lt. Water Cooled Machingun. In 1957 __________________ Richard L.

February 6, 2014, 04:06 PM	#40
cohoskip Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 2007 Location: Chimacum, WA Posts: 424	USMC Bazooka. Most fun: Full auto M2 Carbine; My Thompson 1927 model __________________ To err is human, to forgive divine Neither is Marine Corps policy... NRA Life Member

February 11, 2014, 05:25 PM	#42
lcpiper Senior Member Join Date: May 15, 2011 Posts: 1,405	It's a toss up, the Sterling 9mm SMG in Canada and a suppressed MAC-10 in 45ACP in Tucson. Both of course were full auto although I spent most of my time with the MAC-10 squeezing off single shots trying to hit a brick at about 20 yards, tough at first but I think with practice a guy could get it down pretty good. __________________ Colt M1911, AR-15 \| S&W Model 19, Model 27\| SIG P238 \| Berreta 85B Cheetah \| Ruger Blackhawk .357MAG, Bearcat "Shopkeeper" .22LR\| Remington Marine Magnum SP 12GA., Model 700 SPS .223

February 12, 2014, 07:05 PM	#44
Jbar4Ranch Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 1999 Location: Near Helena, Montana Posts: 1,719	COP .357 - I've never fired it, as it appears to be NIB. WWII Liberator pistol - Appeared to have been fired when I acquired it, so I've put six rounds of reduced load, lightweight lead bullet reloads through it. __________________ Sometimes the squeaky wheel gets replaced... SASS 47015

February 3, 2014, 12:34 PM	#26
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	I like this thread! Some strange firearms I've handled or have: COP .357 (have) Borchardt C-93 (handled) Gwinn Arm Pistol (have) Mateba semi-auto revolver (handled) HAC-7 (have) .308 proprietary rifle made in the '80's that looks like the offspring of a FAL and and AR10.

February 3, 2014, 03:55 PM	#29
Guggmeister Senior Member Join Date: March 10, 2013 Posts: 117	Some old british breech lock blackpowder gun with carrot-sized cartridges. Henry something.

February 4, 2014, 07:55 AM	#31
cecILL Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2001 Location: central IL Posts: 769	OK. One case .45 ACP, one 1911A1, and one "grease gun". Shot the whole case.

February 6, 2014, 09:35 AM	#35
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	I have to agree that for a modern gun, the Boberg XR9-S wins "strangest gun". You can take it apart and spend a good amount of time just trying to figure out what each part does. Besides the way cartridges are pulled from the magazine and then inserted into the chamber, there are a couple other oddities about this gun: 1. The "hammer" is a square steel "flap" that fits flush with the pistol; 2. The recoil spring is offset to the side and runs about the full length of the slide; 3. Boberg has videos of how the gun will still function properly with the recoil spring/guiderod removed. 4. If you don't use the right ammo, the bullet can actually separate from the casing upon being pulled from the magazine. 5. Some parts serve dual purposes - I'm still trying to figure out what each part does.

February 6, 2014, 12:03 PM	#37
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	I would be surprised if Boberg's design was actually based on the Mars pistol. Only 80 Mars pistols were ever made and Boberg's design is quite different from what little I can tell.

February 11, 2014, 05:15 PM	#41
Doc TH Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2005 Posts: 633	I wouldn't call them "strange", but I enjoyed shooting original cavalry carbine models of the trapdoor Springfield and the Remington rolling block.

February 12, 2014, 09:15 AM	#43
feets Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2008 Posts: 560	I've handled (fondled?) a late WW1 Mauser 20 mm anti-tank rifle as well as a WWII German quad 20 mm anti-aircraft platform. The strangest I've fired was an H&K P7 squeeze cocker. Not exactly a rare bird but still odd.

February 12, 2014, 09:12 PM	#46
Jo6pak Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2010 Location: West Coast...of WI Posts: 1,663	^^Nice __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF contributor.

February 12, 2014, 10:28 PM	#47
SHR970 Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2011 Posts: 1,427	Does a XM307 count? How about an XM312??? We had the conversion kit too. If not, how about a full on Land Warrior System M16 circa 1993? No???? Then it would have to be one of several FN platforms (several were prototypes) that were brought in to see if Land Warrior could be integrated with. Almost forgot the OG Armalite AR-10 with the charging bar located in the carry handle.

February 14, 2014, 01:17 AM	#48
1stmar Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,378	Probably an hk p7 squeeze cocker.. Nice gun, good trigger, very well made.these things are going for over 2k on gunbroker. Crazy. Not sure why they don't make them anymore. Last edited by 1stmar; February 14, 2014 at 01:22 AM.

February 15, 2014, 10:50 AM	#49
Ozzieman Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 6,117	Rising M55 SMG with the folding stock. Had the oddest fitting pistol grip to the hand that was all wood. The metal stock looked link a coat hanger and wasn’t much stronger. By far the dumbest loading lever every placed on a gun. In a grove in the stock under the barrel. WAY to fast of a cycle rate. And fun as heck, 100 rounds __________________ It was a sad day when I discovered my universal remote control did not in fact control the universe. Did you hear about the latest study.....5 out of 6 liberals say that Russian Roulette is safe.

February 15, 2014, 10:59 AM	#50
RickB Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2000 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 8,518	My dad had an old pinfire revolver, French or Belgian probably, with a large knife blade protruding under the barrel. Pictures of them are pretty common, but I've never seen another one in the flesh. The strangest gun I've shot was a H&K .308 rifle, the semi-auto version of the G3, shortened into a MP5-sized pistol. One of those fun-to-shoot, but what's-it-for deals.