Tactical reload

snyper85 · August 22, 2011, 02:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOwI8AO3QY8

I think if i keep it shouldered it would be faster but it was my first try.

colostomyclown · August 22, 2011, 03:01 PM

how very tactical.

anonymousFolk · August 26, 2011, 07:20 PM

Very nice. Makes me want to go practice right now.

Dave McC · August 26, 2011, 07:38 PM

Good start. Try it also with the shotgun mounted using the strong hand and having your ammo over on the right side. One method or the other will work better for you.

Lee Lapin · August 26, 2011, 09:41 PM

Keeping the gun shouldered is faster. Keeping eyes on the threat not on the gun is IMPERATIVE. Learn to load by feel. Load one shoot one (loading into the loading port) is what I'd rather do, if possible, as that leaves a live round in the chamber while a round is being loaded. Running the gun empty means load TWO shoot one to start with. Cover is for loading...

lpl

snyper85 · August 27, 2011, 02:11 PM

Thanks for the input lee. I have been going through a couple different scnarios at the range run & shoot, shoulder while reloading, cover & reload. After 250 rounds you should see my shoulder

Lee Lapin · August 27, 2011, 11:59 PM

Different trainers teach different methods, and what's best for any one shooter is whatever works best for that particular shooter. Here's a little different approach to your through-the-ejection-port method that you might enjoy seeing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7AjaNwtKww&NR=1

Don't short stroke though...

Now if the magazine ever goes down/fails to function on a tube fed gun for whatever reason, then being practiced at loading through the ejection port is all of a sudden going to be a Very Good Thing. But as long as the magazine is working, I was taught to use it, because normal reloading is done through the loading port and even under pressure it's possible to reload that way quickly if it's a practiced skill. Same deal for select slug drills, they can be done through the magazine or through the ejection port, but the more methods of loading you try to keep in your mind the more likely (IMHO) it is to screw up whatever you try to do under pressure. KISS definitely applies, figure out what works for you and practice that a lot.

And stay focused on the threat, plus whatever friends the threat might have around too. But don't beat yourself into a flinch while you're learning...

hth,

lpl

T. O'Heir · August 28, 2011, 03:38 AM

Your ammo is in the wrong place. And you're looking for it. Watch the video yourself too. I'd lose whatever it is you're wearing. Too much excess stuff that has nothing to do with loading a shotgun. An ammo belt or bandolier is more natural. http://www.securityprousa.com/ammobelts.html
Get a mag extension as well. Three rounds in the shotgun is for hunting migratory birds only.

okiewita40 · August 28, 2011, 08:36 AM

My dept. does something similar to the video. Only we start with an open chamber. Have 3 shells in the forward hand. load 1 in the port, run the pump forward and load the other 2 in the normal manner. Then we shoot all 3 rounds. all of this is done in 7 seconds. Then again we call it combat loading. I have yet in 20 years to see anything tactical done on a shooting range. Paper is not that hard to sneak up on nor does it shoot back at you.

Lee Lapin · August 28, 2011, 11:28 AM

Get a mag extension as well. Three rounds in the shotgun is for hunting migratory birds only.

Louis Awerbuck - No magazine is ever big enough. (class lecture)

Clint Smith - Didja notice that this one, even with the long magazine tube, eventually went empty? So, we still gotta practice loadin' 'em. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhgwHQCJwWw

Mindset. SKILLSET. Toolset. In that order!, said COL Boyd.
http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/john_boyd/

lpl

snyper85 · August 28, 2011, 01:59 PM

Whats with all the negative comments?

August 22, 2011, 02:57 PM	#1
snyper85 Member Join Date: June 25, 2011 Posts: 26	Tactical reload http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOwI8AO3QY8 I think if i keep it shouldered it would be faster but it was my first try.

August 26, 2011, 09:41 PM	#5
Lee Lapin Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2004 Location: SE NC Posts: 1,239	Keeping the gun shouldered is faster. Keeping eyes on the threat not on the gun is IMPERATIVE. Learn to load by feel. Load one shoot one (loading into the loading port) is what I'd rather do, if possible, as that leaves a live round in the chamber while a round is being loaded. Running the gun empty means load TWO shoot one to start with. Cover is for loading... lpl __________________ Mindset - Skillset - Toolset. In that order! Attitude and skill will get you through times of no gear, better than gear will get you through times of no attitude and no skill.

August 27, 2011, 11:59 PM	#7
Lee Lapin Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2004 Location: SE NC Posts: 1,239	Different trainers teach different methods, and what's best for any one shooter is whatever works best for that particular shooter. Here's a little different approach to your through-the-ejection-port method that you might enjoy seeing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7AjaNwtKww&NR=1 Don't short stroke though... Now if the magazine ever goes down/fails to function on a tube fed gun for whatever reason, then being practiced at loading through the ejection port is all of a sudden going to be a Very Good Thing. But as long as the magazine is working, I was taught to use it, because normal reloading is done through the loading port and even under pressure it's possible to reload that way quickly if it's a practiced skill. Same deal for select slug drills, they can be done through the magazine or through the ejection port, but the more methods of loading you try to keep in your mind the more likely (IMHO) it is to screw up whatever you try to do under pressure. KISS definitely applies, figure out what works for you and practice that a lot. And stay focused on the threat, plus whatever friends the threat might have around too. But don't beat yourself into a flinch while you're learning... hth, lpl __________________ Mindset - Skillset - Toolset. In that order! Attitude and skill will get you through times of no gear, better than gear will get you through times of no attitude and no skill. Last edited by Lee Lapin; August 28, 2011 at 12:09 AM.

August 28, 2011, 03:38 AM	#8
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	Your ammo is in the wrong place. And you're looking for it. Watch the video yourself too. I'd lose whatever it is you're wearing. Too much excess stuff that has nothing to do with loading a shotgun. An ammo belt or bandolier is more natural. http://www.securityprousa.com/ammobelts.html Get a mag extension as well. Three rounds in the shotgun is for hunting migratory birds only. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

August 28, 2011, 08:36 AM	#9
okiewita40 Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 409	My dept. does something similar to the video. Only we start with an open chamber. Have 3 shells in the forward hand. load 1 in the port, run the pump forward and load the other 2 in the normal manner. Then we shoot all 3 rounds. all of this is done in 7 seconds. Then again we call it combat loading. I have yet in 20 years to see anything tactical done on a shooting range. Paper is not that hard to sneak up on nor does it shoot back at you. __________________ What on god's green earth do you think your doing?

August 22, 2011, 03:01 PM	#2
colostomyclown Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2009 Posts: 613	how very tactical.

August 26, 2011, 07:20 PM	#3
anonymousFolk Member Join Date: March 24, 2011 Posts: 63	Very nice. Makes me want to go practice right now.

August 26, 2011, 07:38 PM	#4
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	Good start. Try it also with the shotgun mounted using the strong hand and having your ammo over on the right side. One method or the other will work better for you.

August 27, 2011, 02:11 PM	#6
snyper85 Member Join Date: June 25, 2011 Posts: 26	Thanks for the input lee. I have been going through a couple different scnarios at the range run & shoot, shoulder while reloading, cover & reload. After 250 rounds you should see my shoulder

August 28, 2011, 11:28 AM	#10
Lee Lapin Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2004 Location: SE NC Posts: 1,239	Get a mag extension as well. Three rounds in the shotgun is for hunting migratory birds only. Louis Awerbuck - No magazine is ever big enough. (class lecture) Clint Smith - Didja notice that this one, even with the long magazine tube, eventually went empty? So, we still gotta practice loadin' 'em. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhgwHQCJwWw Mindset. SKILLSET. Toolset. In that order!, said COL Boyd. http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/john_boyd/ lpl __________________ Mindset - Skillset - Toolset. In that order! Attitude and skill will get you through times of no gear, better than gear will get you through times of no attitude and no skill.

August 28, 2011, 01:59 PM	#11
snyper85 Member Join Date: June 25, 2011 Posts: 26	Whats with all the negative comments?