8x57 dies

mikesbritishguns · November 1, 2005, 10:46 PM

Anyone know where I can find a set of dies for the .323 8x57 rimmed cartridge? These German 8mms always confuse me, is this the one that is called 8x57JRS? Thanks.

Olaf · November 2, 2005, 12:51 AM

The dimensions of the case are the same as the standard 8 x 57JS. The rimmed case is not of concern, except in terms of the shellholder needed. So, most brands of 8 x 57 JS dies should work fine for this. Also, standard case-trimming tools, such as the Lee manual tools, should be fine, too....except (again) for the shellholder.

mikesbritishguns · November 2, 2005, 12:46 PM

Thanks Olaf

hIPSHOT33 · November 6, 2005, 08:33 PM

go to Huntingtons.in Oroville Calif. they have evrything you need . On the web it ( huntingtons.com)

ammunition-man · December 7, 2005, 09:04 PM

I took a set of them pacific dies to horst auction
thay will be for sale i think in febuary or march
www.horstauction.com

you have to be at the auction house to buy

Schmeisser · December 8, 2005, 01:14 PM

Mike, you can use the 8x57 IS dies to reload 8x 57 IRS ("R" standing for "Rand" = rim) without problems. The shellholder to be used is the same as for the unrimmed version (e.g. RCBS #3). As the R cartridges are designed for typical German Kipplauf-hunting rifles like Drilling, Bockbüchsflinte or Doppelbüchse, their load has to be somewhat softer than that of the IS-cartridge designed for military rifles like the Mauser 98. Nevertheless, properly loaded (or European) R-cartridges are still less anaemic than the ones you find on the American market. The IRS is a fine cartridge; I once had a Doppelbüchsdrilling in that caliber and harvested a lot among deer & wild boar. As a rule, if you hit a piece half way right, you've got it.

November 1, 2005, 10:46 PM	#1
mikesbritishguns Junior Member Join Date: November 1, 2005 Posts: 5	8x57 dies Anyone know where I can find a set of dies for the .323 8x57 rimmed cartridge? These German 8mms always confuse me, is this the one that is called 8x57JRS? Thanks.

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ammunition-man Junior member Join Date: November 30, 2005 Posts: 59	8x57 dies I took a set of them pacific dies to horst auction thay will be for sale i think in febuary or march www.horstauction.com you have to be at the auction house to buy

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November 2, 2005, 12:51 AM	#2
Olaf Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2005 Location: not from Svalbard Posts: 346	The dimensions of the case are the same as the standard 8 x 57JS. The rimmed case is not of concern, except in terms of the shellholder needed. So, most brands of 8 x 57 JS dies should work fine for this. Also, standard case-trimming tools, such as the Lee manual tools, should be fine, too....except (again) for the shellholder.

November 2, 2005, 12:46 PM	#3
mikesbritishguns Junior Member Join Date: November 1, 2005 Posts: 5	Thanks Olaf

November 6, 2005, 08:33 PM	#4
hIPSHOT33 Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2005 Location: ETNA CA. IN THE REAL NORTHERN CALIFORNIA Posts: 120	go to Huntingtons.in Oroville Calif. they have evrything you need . On the web it ( huntingtons.com)

December 8, 2005, 01:14 PM	#6
Schmeisser Member Join Date: November 14, 2005 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 52	Mike, you can use the 8x57 IS dies to reload 8x 57 IRS ("R" standing for "Rand" = rim) without problems. The shellholder to be used is the same as for the unrimmed version (e.g. RCBS #3). As the R cartridges are designed for typical German Kipplauf-hunting rifles like Drilling, Bockbüchsflinte or Doppelbüchse, their load has to be somewhat softer than that of the IS-cartridge designed for military rifles like the Mauser 98. Nevertheless, properly loaded (or European) R-cartridges are still less anaemic than the ones you find on the American market. The IRS is a fine cartridge; I once had a Doppelbüchsdrilling in that caliber and harvested a lot among deer & wild boar. As a rule, if you hit a piece half way right, you've got it.