ransom resting at 25 yrds how good is good ???s

rabbit · May 24, 2012, 08:59 PM

howdy guy& gals , I have a brain picker head scratcher here , i am going to start testing combat reloads for my .38 & 357 magnums , perhaps I will get to my new .41 mag.
I plan I using 165 gr SWc in magnums 158 round nose & 165 gr swc in the .38[ I have a large bucket full of 158 's I cast for a friend who moved ].
I plan on rasom resting at 25 yrds how good is good ???

some yrs ago i loaded .38 special wadcutter loads and .45 swc and was able to get x ring size groups at 25 yrds , just curius , rabbit

jmorris · May 25, 2012, 12:31 AM

These are from 50 but better than most at 25.

steve4102 · May 25, 2012, 06:32 AM

Seven off a sand bag, 25 yards, Dan Wesson 1911 45 PM-7.

serf 'rett · May 25, 2012, 02:21 PM

I think you have asked a question which on you can answer.

Are you going to test different power charges? Different primers? Different COALs? different brass? Different temps?

What is good enough for you?

rabbit · May 26, 2012, 09:44 PM

hi guys , I am trying to devolop a couple of combat loads approx 8oo fps in at least 3 different powders , just in case I cannot find my favorite powderas the gun show here donnot have podwer for sale,
rabbit

Hammerhead · May 27, 2012, 06:51 AM

You have an actual Ransom rest or do you mean shooting from a rest?
From a Ransom rest, after it's been settled in with a couple dozen shots, 1"or less @ 25 yards should be about par for the course with a quality revolver and a good handload.

If you're shooting over sandbags you should be able to shoot under 2" depending on your eyes and hands.

rabbit · May 27, 2012, 09:42 AM

hi guys , I have a ransome rest with windage base ,

Mike / Tx · May 28, 2012, 06:43 PM

If you cannot get anywhere close to what JMorris posted above from 50yds, at 25, then something is wrong.

These were shot freehand at 25yds from my Redhawk in 45 Colt, and Raging Bull in 454,
45 Colt, Oregon Trail 200gr(top) 250gr (bottom)

454, Lee 300gr 1570fps

At least as good or better than those....

What powders are you looking to use? Do you plan on trying to shoot double action groups?

For what your looking at I would suggest looking at possibly giving some AA-2, Unique, or Red Dot a try in the 38, and A-7 or 9, possibly 2400. For combat type loads you don't want the flash for sure, and the best velocity you can get with out leading or muzzle jump.

When you get to the 41 give 2400 or 110/296 a try. My mainstay load for it uses 20.5grs of 296 under the Remington 200gr SJHP. Very nice load, very accurate out of several revolvers I and others have used it in. If you want to use lead in it, I can honestly say that you should give Dry Creek Bullet Works, a hard look followed by Montana Bullet Works. They both put a VERY fine 41 bullet together that should serve your needs very well.

May 24, 2012, 08:59 PM	#1
rabbit Junior member Join Date: September 15, 2011 Posts: 37	ransom resting at 25 yrds how good is good ???s howdy guy& gals , I have a brain picker head scratcher here , i am going to start testing combat reloads for my .38 & 357 magnums , perhaps I will get to my new .41 mag. I plan I using 165 gr SWc in magnums 158 round nose & 165 gr swc in the .38[ I have a large bucket full of 158 's I cast for a friend who moved ]. I plan on rasom resting at 25 yrds how good is good ??? some yrs ago i loaded .38 special wadcutter loads and .45 swc and was able to get x ring size groups at 25 yrds , just curius , rabbit

May 25, 2012, 02:21 PM	#4
serf 'rett Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2009 Location: Stuttgart, AR Posts: 1,569	I think you have asked a question which on you can answer. Are you going to test different power charges? Different primers? Different COALs? different brass? Different temps? What is good enough for you? __________________ A lack of planning on your part does not necessarily constitute an emergency on my part.

May 28, 2012, 06:43 PM	#8
Mike / Tx Senior Member Join Date: April 8, 2000 Posts: 2,101	If you cannot get anywhere close to what JMorris posted above from 50yds, at 25, then something is wrong. These were shot freehand at 25yds from my Redhawk in 45 Colt, and Raging Bull in 454, 45 Colt, Oregon Trail 200gr(top) 250gr (bottom) 454, Lee 300gr 1570fps At least as good or better than those.... What powders are you looking to use? Do you plan on trying to shoot double action groups? For what your looking at I would suggest looking at possibly giving some AA-2, Unique, or Red Dot a try in the 38, and A-7 or 9, possibly 2400. For combat type loads you don't want the flash for sure, and the best velocity you can get with out leading or muzzle jump. When you get to the 41 give 2400 or 110/296 a try. My mainstay load for it uses 20.5grs of 296 under the Remington 200gr SJHP. Very nice load, very accurate out of several revolvers I and others have used it in. If you want to use lead in it, I can honestly say that you should give Dry Creek Bullet Works, a hard look followed by Montana Bullet Works. They both put a VERY fine 41 bullet together that should serve your needs very well. __________________ LAter, Mike / TX

May 25, 2012, 12:31 AM	#2
jmorris Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2006 Posts: 3,077	These are from 50 but better than most at 25.

May 25, 2012, 06:32 AM	#3
steve4102 Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,955	Seven off a sand bag, 25 yards, Dan Wesson 1911 45 PM-7.

May 26, 2012, 09:44 PM	#5
rabbit Junior member Join Date: September 15, 2011 Posts: 37	hi guys , I am trying to devolop a couple of combat loads approx 8oo fps in at least 3 different powders , just in case I cannot find my favorite powderas the gun show here donnot have podwer for sale, rabbit

May 27, 2012, 06:51 AM	#6
Hammerhead Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,432	You have an actual Ransom rest or do you mean shooting from a rest? From a Ransom rest, after it's been settled in with a couple dozen shots, 1"or less @ 25 yards should be about par for the course with a quality revolver and a good handload. If you're shooting over sandbags you should be able to shoot under 2" depending on your eyes and hands.

May 27, 2012, 09:42 AM	#7
rabbit Junior member Join Date: September 15, 2011 Posts: 37	hi guys , I have a ransome rest with windage base ,