Joe thug vs shotgun

Super-Dave · December 26, 2009, 04:52 PM

Okay my question is, which will do more damage to Joe Thug at less than 3 yards, a slug or 00 buckshot?

I know the 00 buck shot will not spread much at that distance, however once it hits the body it will spread out while it is going through the body. The slug very likely will completely penetrate the torso creating a .71" or so hole all the way through.

so the question is will the buck shot do more damage to the human torso than a slug at that range?

I dont want to hear all the overpenetrations "it might kill your neighbor" mumbo jumbo. Just assume you live out in the middle of now where and you have no neighbors.

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jaguarxk120 · December 26, 2009, 05:40 PM

The buckshot at ten feet will start to spread some what. Maybe 2-3 inches, when that group of pellets hits soft tissue, it will work just like a meat grinder. That area of the body being hit will nolonger be soild tissue but so badly torn up that nothing can be done to repair the dammage.

It's like hitting the target with 9 shots from a 33 cal machine gun!!

hogdogs · December 26, 2009, 05:41 PM

At 3 yards, you need a vote of:
C) All of the above

I don't think the lay person could tell the difference in the wounds caused by either with the naked eye

:barf:
Brent

Anticonn · December 26, 2009, 05:50 PM

Quote:

It's like hitting the target with 9 shots from a 33 cal machine gun!!

I keep 3.5" 00b in my Nova, that's 2.25oz and 18 pellets of man-stopper. I'd wager that's quite a bit more damage than any slug (out to about 20 yards, anyway)

DRice.72 · December 26, 2009, 05:51 PM

I would have to agree with Brent. When I patterened my shotgun at 25 yds. My 00,#1 all srtayed on a pie plate. I would think from this that there will be much less than the 2 to 3 inches of spread at less than 9 feet. The ER doc, or corner will also be pulling out the wadding left in the cavity at that distance.

dondavis3 · December 26, 2009, 06:20 PM

Joe thug loses to 5 to 8 .38 size hits all at once.

That's why LEO's use 00 & 000 buck

Nanuk · December 26, 2009, 06:35 PM

I have had the opportunity to see both.

Slug BG was DRT almost tore in half, 3' from the muzzle.

00 Buck contact wound-wad stuck in entrance wound about an 8" circle of holes out his back every pellet exited. DRT, he did go to his knees and pray to god as he expired.

I have 00 Buck in my bedside 870, works for me.

Edward429451 · December 26, 2009, 06:53 PM

Where there may be potential for debate of the effectiveness of Buckshot....there isn't for slugs so that's what I like in the bedside 870.

Dave McC · December 26, 2009, 07:09 PM

Closed, for obvious reasons.....

View Poll Results: Which does more damage to Joe Thug at 3 yards?
slug	3	30.00%
00 buck shot	7	70.00%
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December 26, 2009, 05:41 PM	#3
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	At 3 yards, you need a vote of: C) All of the above I don't think the lay person could tell the difference in the wounds caused by either with the naked eye:barf: Brent

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DRice.72 Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2009 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 451	I would have to agree with Brent. When I patterened my shotgun at 25 yds. My 00,#1 all srtayed on a pie plate. I would think from this that there will be much less than the 2 to 3 inches of spread at less than 9 feet. The ER doc, or corner will also be pulling out the wadding left in the cavity at that distance. __________________ They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin Light is faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright unitl you hear them speak! They should have stopped with "Congress shall make no Law...

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December 26, 2009, 04:52 PM	#1
Super-Dave Senior Member Join Date: February 1, 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 795	Joe thug vs shotgun Okay my question is, which will do more damage to Joe Thug at less than 3 yards, a slug or 00 buckshot? I know the 00 buck shot will not spread much at that distance, however once it hits the body it will spread out while it is going through the body. The slug very likely will completely penetrate the torso creating a .71" or so hole all the way through. so the question is will the buck shot do more damage to the human torso than a slug at that range? I dont want to hear all the overpenetrations "it might kill your neighbor" mumbo jumbo. Just assume you live out in the middle of now where and you have no neighbors. . __________________ If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever. George Orwell

December 26, 2009, 05:40 PM	#2
jaguarxk120 Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,619	The buckshot at ten feet will start to spread some what. Maybe 2-3 inches, when that group of pellets hits soft tissue, it will work just like a meat grinder. That area of the body being hit will nolonger be soild tissue but so badly torn up that nothing can be done to repair the dammage. It's like hitting the target with 9 shots from a 33 cal machine gun!!

December 26, 2009, 06:35 PM	#7
Nanuk Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2005 Location: Where the deer and the antelope roam. Posts: 3,082	I have had the opportunity to see both. Slug BG was DRT almost tore in half, 3' from the muzzle. 00 Buck contact wound-wad stuck in entrance wound about an 8" circle of holes out his back every pellet exited. DRT, he did go to his knees and pray to god as he expired. I have 00 Buck in my bedside 870, works for me.

December 26, 2009, 06:53 PM	#8
Edward429451 Junior member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,494	Where there may be potential for debate of the effectiveness of Buckshot....there isn't for slugs so that's what I like in the bedside 870.

December 26, 2009, 07:09 PM	#9
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	Closed, for obvious reasons.....