December 30, 2010, 07:51 PM | #51 |
Senior Member
Join Date: May 27, 2006
Location: Ozarks
Posts: 1,840
|
In the Charles Portis novel Cogburn shoots the right two times without aiming using Mattie Ross's Dragoon revolver. In the 1969 John Wayne version Cogburn uses his own SAA to shoot the rat. In the Bridges version there ain't no rat shooting at all. And no cat named General Sterling Price either.
You can't serve papers on a rat Baby Sister, you gotta shoot him or let him be.
__________________
"A Liberal is someone who doesn't care what you do, as long as it's mandatory". - Charles Krauthammer |
December 30, 2010, 10:40 PM | #52 |
Junior member
Join Date: January 1, 2007
Location: Idaho
Posts: 2,282
|
I came in a minute or two late but I thought they were in Fort Smith Arkansas, not Santa Fe. As a personal aside, after many years of getting thrown and other indignities, shooting a horse makes infinite sense to me.
|
December 30, 2010, 10:40 PM | #53 |
Senior Member
Join Date: January 17, 2006
Location: Panhandle, Idaho
Posts: 714
|
This site shows most of the guns in the original movie. http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/True_Grit
In the new movie Lucky Ned carries a Remington 1875 and Mattie's gun is a Colt Dragoon and not a Walker as in the first movie. |
December 31, 2010, 02:32 AM | #54 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 8, 2007
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 16,188
|
Quote:
|
|
January 12, 2011, 05:09 PM | #55 |
Member
Join Date: January 12, 2011
Location: Eastern NC
Posts: 16
|
Guns not so gritty
Howdy all! Just registered and here's my first post. Regarding the Coens' True Grit, whatever one's view of its overall quality versus the 1969 original, there's one area that the remake fell flat. For all the attention to detail, the guns in the film look new out of the box! For instance, Tom Chaney's Henry rifle has brass shiny enough to shave with. Same for Rooster's '51 navies in his saddle holsters and Mattie's "old" Dragoon. Also the wood stocks on all the rifles are heavily shellacked and glossy. Look closely at the original and you'll see all the weapons look properly aged. Goes to show that the old-timers got at least a couple of things right.
|
January 12, 2011, 06:49 PM | #56 |
Senior Member
Join Date: October 24, 2008
Location: Naples, Fl
Posts: 5,440
|
Powdermonkey
Welcome to the forum.
__________________
Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath. |
January 12, 2011, 07:37 PM | #57 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: February 24, 2009
Posts: 727
|
Quote:
Welcome to the forum. Last edited by Model-P; January 12, 2011 at 07:42 PM. |
|
January 15, 2011, 02:29 PM | #58 |
Member
Join Date: January 12, 2011
Location: Eastern NC
Posts: 16
|
True, Model P. But as the man said, "It's not the years, it's the mileage." My beef is that men who look like they haven't bathed since last Xmas and wouldn't know what a toothbrush is used for are toting around tenderfoot-shiny guns. Go to a cowboy shoot and look at the guns there, keeping in mind these guns belong to folks who don't live outdoors for weeks and months at a time. I could see Laboeuf with shiny guns, he almost seems prissy at times, but Rooster, Chaney and Ned Pepper? Not likely.
|
January 15, 2011, 02:30 PM | #59 |
Member
Join Date: January 12, 2011
Location: Eastern NC
Posts: 16
|
P.S.
By the way, thanks for the welcome. I love this forum!
|
January 15, 2011, 08:55 PM | #60 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 8, 2007
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 16,188
|
Quote:
|
|
January 15, 2011, 09:30 PM | #61 |
Senior Member
Join Date: March 21, 2005
Location: Athens, Georgia
Posts: 823
|
Even if they look new at least they were period correct. You can't really say that for the original, or most westerns of that era for that matter. They didn't really start paying attention to that until later on. I would suggest that Clint Eastwood was one of the first directors to do so.
__________________
Todd NRA Life Member |
January 15, 2011, 09:38 PM | #62 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: September 8, 2007
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 16,188
|
Quote:
|
|
January 16, 2011, 12:34 AM | #63 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: February 24, 2009
Posts: 727
|
Quote:
|
|
January 16, 2011, 01:34 AM | #64 |
Senior Member
Join Date: April 14, 2009
Location: Sunny Southern Idaho
Posts: 1,909
|
I can't help but think that a former soldier, Union or Confederate, having been through the routine of cleaning his weapon every night would let his sidearm or rifle get too terribly beat up.
__________________
Well we don't rent pigs and I figure it's better to say it right out front because a man that does like to rent pigs is... he's hard to stop - Gus McCrae |
January 16, 2011, 02:00 AM | #65 |
Senior Member
Join Date: November 14, 2010
Location: Northern Virginia
Posts: 1,824
|
Hardcase
I have always heard from my father whom had heard from his father...ect:, ect;
Horse and saddlery, first then, your firearms, second then, your boots, third then, you feed your self, last
__________________
Chief stall mucker and grain chef Country don't mean dumb. Steven King. The Stand |
January 16, 2011, 07:42 AM | #66 |
Senior Member
Join Date: July 16, 2010
Location: East central Minnesota
Posts: 202
|
Your granddad and dad got that right Egor20.
|
January 16, 2011, 05:16 PM | #67 |
Member
Join Date: January 12, 2011
Location: Eastern NC
Posts: 16
|
You're right, but. . .
Good points, everyone! However, like Grant, "I'll fight it out on this line if it takes all summer." I do see the logic of "care for your horse, saddle, gun self" and the point about older western being made with original, well worn guns is quite insightful.
Perhaps it's a question of aesthetics; super shiny brass, to me, seems quite out of place on Civil War-era guns in a film set almost twenty years later. I have brass doorknobs that turn dull yellow just a few weeks after cleaning. Any vets who've had to polish brass belt buckles and rank insignia can attest to how quickly brass fixtures, especially ones that are handled frequently (like revolver grip frames and rifle receivers), tarnish up. If this weren't true Brasso would be long out of business. So Hollywood, listen up! Before you turn out another western, send your guns to me for free weathering, tarnishing and break in. After all, I just want to do my part |
January 17, 2011, 01:53 AM | #68 |
Senior Member
Join Date: February 24, 2009
Posts: 727
|
I see now. Yep, and brass tarnishes surprisingly fast when exposed to black powder fouling. I'd have to watch the movie again to see the brass of which you speak.
|
Tags |
guns , rifle |
|
|