Have you been sold a bunch of BULL?

Stone Cold · October 24, 2008, 06:01 AM

The latest fad among some gun belt makers is bullhide. Bullhide is an extremely low quality leather imported from Mexico at low cost. Bulls are killed for their hides at a much older age, and therefore the leather tends to be raggy and full of fat wrinkles (soft spots in the leather). You will observe that many bullhide belts have stiffening "inserts" in them to overcome the leathers deficiencies. This is completely unnecessary with best quality cowhide, and is clear evidence of bullhide's inferiority.

The above quote comes from the Mitch Rosen website.

T. O'Heir · October 24, 2008, 09:48 PM

Not all bulls are left as bulls. Most are not as far as I know. A bull raised for meat and/or hides is castrated before it reaches maturity. They don't live long enough to get fat wrinkles. Mind you, who knows what goes on in Mexico.

teeroux · October 24, 2008, 10:34 PM

Mabe the bulls drink the water.

scoobydoo6906 · October 25, 2008, 06:48 PM

kydex inserts are just fine, lots of quality holster/belt makers use them. using kydex is way better than using way thick leather which is a dead give away that you are carrying a gun (just like a black leather fanny pack screams gun). the bull leather I am not sure about but kydex lined or reinforced belts are all I have and will use and is nothing wrong with them.

vytoland · October 25, 2008, 09:22 PM

shoot the bull, keep the hide, get viagra

langloisandy · November 1, 2008, 06:38 AM

Stone,

I use Bull for some of my leather gear, it works FINE....actually the wrinkles, fat rolls, stretch marks, brands and such give the leather character, it looks NICE when finished.

I have had some seriously soft leather that needed stiffening, I just do that or use it for other items that are OK when soft/pliable.

Andy

fisherman66 · November 1, 2008, 08:06 AM

I prefer horsehide. After a law change in 07, I imagine all horsehide will be imported only.

NickM · November 1, 2008, 11:13 AM

Quote:

I use Bull for some of my leather gear, it works FINE....actually the wrinkles, fat rolls, stretch marks, brands and such give the leather character, it looks NICE when finished.

+1

They really do give the finished leather a nice look.

oobuck · November 13, 2008, 09:55 PM

Sounds like bull**** to me...

October 24, 2008, 06:01 AM	#1
Stone Cold Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2008 Location: Wilmington, Ohio Posts: 177	Have you been sold a bunch of BULL? The latest fad among some gun belt makers is bullhide. Bullhide is an extremely low quality leather imported from Mexico at low cost. Bulls are killed for their hides at a much older age, and therefore the leather tends to be raggy and full of fat wrinkles (soft spots in the leather). You will observe that many bullhide belts have stiffening "inserts" in them to overcome the leathers deficiencies. This is completely unnecessary with best quality cowhide, and is clear evidence of bullhide's inferiority. The above quote comes from the Mitch Rosen website.

October 24, 2008, 09:48 PM	#2
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	Not all bulls are left as bulls. Most are not as far as I know. A bull raised for meat and/or hides is castrated before it reaches maturity. They don't live long enough to get fat wrinkles. Mind you, who knows what goes on in Mexico. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

October 25, 2008, 06:48 PM	#4
scoobydoo6906 Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2005 Location: Portland, Or Posts: 306	kydex inserts are just fine, lots of quality holster/belt makers use them. using kydex is way better than using way thick leather which is a dead give away that you are carrying a gun (just like a black leather fanny pack screams gun). the bull leather I am not sure about but kydex lined or reinforced belts are all I have and will use and is nothing wrong with them. __________________ Remington 700 BDL, Yugo M70B1 , Remington 870 wingmaster, Pre 64 Fn Mauser, WASR-10, Mossberg 500, S&W M&P-9, S&W M&P-9c, Mossberg 1500, AR-15 X2, Ruger 10/22, Kahr CW-9, Ruger P-89, Yugo SKS

October 25, 2008, 09:22 PM	#5
vytoland Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 614	stiffening "inserts" shoot the bull, keep the hide, get viagra

November 1, 2008, 06:38 AM	#6
langloisandy Senior Member Join Date: June 27, 2006 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 104	Bull! Stone, I use Bull for some of my leather gear, it works FINE....actually the wrinkles, fat rolls, stretch marks, brands and such give the leather character, it looks NICE when finished. I have had some seriously soft leather that needed stiffening, I just do that or use it for other items that are OK when soft/pliable. Andy __________________ Andy Langlois' Scout Rifle Ching Slings www.andysleather.com Will swap my custom leather for: VZ61 parts, 9mm AR upper and AK Bits

October 24, 2008, 10:34 PM	#3
teeroux Senior Member Join Date: December 12, 2006 Posts: 1,512	Mabe the bulls drink the water.

November 1, 2008, 08:06 AM	#7
fisherman66 Senior Member Join Date: August 22, 2005 Location: The Woodlands TX Posts: 4,679	I prefer horsehide. After a law change in 07, I imagine all horsehide will be imported only. __________________ la plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas!

November 13, 2008, 09:55 PM	#9
oobuck Junior member Join Date: May 23, 2002 Posts: 14	Sounds like bull**** to me...