Mil-Dot Master

bryceh12321 · February 8, 2009, 01:34 PM

I am debating between getting a Super Sniper 10x42 and a Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24x50. Here is my question. Will I still be able to use the Mil Dot Master tool if I choose to go with the Bushnell? Will the Mil Dot Master work at any magnification? Or what magnifications will it work at? Thanks.

Jimro · February 8, 2009, 02:14 PM

The bushnell is not a first focal plane reticle, that means it only measures "true" at 12x (pretty sure it's 12x anyways).

That means if you range at 6x you have to double your calculated distance, and if you range at 24x you have to half your calculated distance. Simple enough to do.

Either scope is a good choice, but if you aren't going to hunt then I recommend the SuperSniper.

Jimro

T.A.Sharps · February 8, 2009, 03:26 PM

To your mildot question, they will work in variable power, its just that you need to know the power they are set for.

I own the Super Sniper, and I regret it. 3 strikes rule. There were two short comings that i read about before I got it, mushy clicks and low light level contrast. I'm not a Benchrest shooter, so they didn't mater too much for the price.

My clicks mush between the 1/4 increments and do not give an very audible "click". Not concerned about the lower contrast, I'm not good enough to notice. The lack of a sunshade bothered me though.

Strike 3 was when I got my rifle out to clean and the "ring" around the parallax adjustment nob that the scale for magnification came loose, and now freely rotates around the nob.

I do not mean the 3 screws to loosen the nob to 0 your parallax, but the ring the scale is printed/etched on itself. I'm not sure why this ring exists there to be broken anyway, I figured it was just printed on the nob itself.

This does not seem like a very demanding part of the scope system, and the fact that it has a short coming like this makes me wonder about the rest of the scope.
I do not have it mounted on a Barrett 50, its on a 308, with less than 100 rounds through it yet. So extreme recoil is not the culprit here.

There are other options out there for the same price that are good scopes. Here is a link to reviews.

http://www.snipercentral.com/scopereviews.htm

Jimro · February 8, 2009, 07:07 PM

I'm pretty sure that counts as a defect in manufacture and SWFA should fix the problem.

Jimro

Gewehr98 · February 8, 2009, 09:30 PM

Those scopes have received good reviews in the past.

What did customer service tell you about your particular scope, when you called them?

I know S.W.F.A. would have done right, in a New York Minute.

February 8, 2009, 01:34 PM	#1
bryceh12321 Senior Member Join Date: December 9, 2008 Posts: 136	Mil-Dot Master I am debating between getting a Super Sniper 10x42 and a Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24x50. Here is my question. Will I still be able to use the Mil Dot Master tool if I choose to go with the Bushnell? Will the Mil Dot Master work at any magnification? Or what magnifications will it work at? Thanks.

February 8, 2009, 02:14 PM	#2
Jimro Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2006 Posts: 7,097	The bushnell is not a first focal plane reticle, that means it only measures "true" at 12x (pretty sure it's 12x anyways). That means if you range at 6x you have to double your calculated distance, and if you range at 24x you have to half your calculated distance. Simple enough to do. Either scope is a good choice, but if you aren't going to hunt then I recommend the SuperSniper. Jimro __________________ Machine guns are awesome until you have to carry one.

February 8, 2009, 03:26 PM	#3
T.A.Sharps Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2007 Posts: 675	To your mildot question, they will work in variable power, its just that you need to know the power they are set for. I own the Super Sniper, and I regret it. 3 strikes rule. There were two short comings that i read about before I got it, mushy clicks and low light level contrast. I'm not a Benchrest shooter, so they didn't mater too much for the price. My clicks mush between the 1/4 increments and do not give an very audible "click". Not concerned about the lower contrast, I'm not good enough to notice. The lack of a sunshade bothered me though. Strike 3 was when I got my rifle out to clean and the "ring" around the parallax adjustment nob that the scale for magnification came loose, and now freely rotates around the nob. I do not mean the 3 screws to loosen the nob to 0 your parallax, but the ring the scale is printed/etched on itself. I'm not sure why this ring exists there to be broken anyway, I figured it was just printed on the nob itself. This does not seem like a very demanding part of the scope system, and the fact that it has a short coming like this makes me wonder about the rest of the scope. I do not have it mounted on a Barrett 50, its on a 308, with less than 100 rounds through it yet. So extreme recoil is not the culprit here. There are other options out there for the same price that are good scopes. Here is a link to reviews. http://www.snipercentral.com/scopereviews.htm __________________ " ...Said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it..." "Your reality, sir, is lies and bladerdash, and I am delighted to say I have no grasp of it whatsoever!"

February 8, 2009, 07:07 PM	#4
Jimro Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2006 Posts: 7,097	I'm pretty sure that counts as a defect in manufacture and SWFA should fix the problem. Jimro __________________ Machine guns are awesome until you have to carry one.

February 8, 2009, 09:30 PM	#5
Gewehr98 Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2000 Location: Token Creek, WI Posts: 4,067	I'm curious, too. Those scopes have received good reviews in the past. What did customer service tell you about your particular scope, when you called them? I know S.W.F.A. would have done right, in a New York Minute. __________________ "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Neural Misfires