Bar attack

mete · October 21, 2011, 07:44 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...dom-AK-47.html

Fortunately the BG was not too bright though he's still at large .I wonder what would have happened if the BG had gotten into the bar .Note that the video shows one of the patrons had a pistol and drew it .
You never know when or where !

Vermonter · October 21, 2011, 08:02 PM

I didnt get the video though.

sliponby · October 21, 2011, 09:41 PM

The one smart person I saw in the video was the bartender who quickly hit the floor and crawled for cover. The dude who drew the pistol was standing full target to the threat. Not too smart...

Mello2u · October 22, 2011, 12:15 PM

This might make an interesting law school Criminal Law question. Given this set of facts, what charges could be brought against people in New York.

Stressfire · October 25, 2011, 08:05 AM

Yikes, hit the deck and try not to spill my beer. If he entered and continued firing, then i might consider returning fire - however, if I were in an Ohio bar and carrying, I would not be drinking.

Elkins45 · October 25, 2011, 08:22 AM

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The dude who drew the pistol was standing full target to the threat. Not too smart...

Yeah...hit the floor first, THEN get your gun out if you must. It's not tactically sound to stand there while a guy with an AK is blazing away.

The video said it happened in Philly. Is CCW in a bar legal there?

One thing about the video that I thought was interesting was when he began shooting at the door there were sparks flying. I thought that only happened in the movies.

Stressfire · October 25, 2011, 08:51 AM

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Is CCW in a bar legal there?

Handgunlaw.us says "Yes" but is unclear on legality of both sitting at the bar/consuming alcohol

federali · October 31, 2011, 07:42 PM

With video backup and eye witness testimony, I think any CCW who engaged this guy would have come out okay from a legal point of view. The problem with bars is that it's a wet environment, most fights start over women or some minor social offense and often, the shooter and shootee know each other. These are the basic ingredients for an eventual conviction.

bacardisteve · October 31, 2011, 10:15 PM

Scary stuff. I don't carry when consuming alcohol at a bar. That said i dont go to bars much anymore. Not long ago a Baltimore city police officer was at a bar off duty and got into an altercation with someone. He then emptied his glock 22 on the person he was arguing with and now that LEO is in jail.

October 21, 2011, 07:44 PM	#1
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	Bar attack http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...dom-AK-47.html Fortunately the BG was not too bright though he's still at large .I wonder what would have happened if the BG had gotten into the bar .Note that the video shows one of the patrons had a pistol and drew it . You never know when or where ! __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

October 21, 2011, 08:02 PM	#2
Vermonter Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2010 Posts: 962	wow I didnt get the video though.

October 21, 2011, 09:41 PM	#3
sliponby Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 187	The one smart person I saw in the video was the bartender who quickly hit the floor and crawled for cover. The dude who drew the pistol was standing full target to the threat. Not too smart... __________________ No one prays harder for peace than the soldier. *"We Dare Defend Our Rights",* Alabama State Motto...

October 22, 2011, 12:15 PM	#4
Mello2u Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,424	This might make an interesting law school Criminal Law question. Given this set of facts, what charges could be brought against people in New York. __________________ NRA Life Member - Orange Gunsite Member - NRA Certified Pistol Instructor "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." Frederic Bastiat

October 25, 2011, 08:05 AM	#5
Stressfire Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,497	Yikes, hit the deck and try not to spill my beer. If he entered and continued firing, then i might consider returning fire - however, if I were in an Ohio bar and carrying, I would not be drinking. __________________ "The best diplomat I know is a fully charged phaser bank" - Montgomery Scott

October 31, 2011, 07:42 PM	#8
federali Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2011 Location: Nassau County NY Posts: 378	? With video backup and eye witness testimony, I think any CCW who engaged this guy would have come out okay from a legal point of view. The problem with bars is that it's a wet environment, most fights start over women or some minor social offense and often, the shooter and shootee know each other. These are the basic ingredients for an eventual conviction. __________________ Int'l Assoc. of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors

October 31, 2011, 10:15 PM	#9
bacardisteve Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2006 Location: West virginia Posts: 653	Scary stuff. I don't carry when consuming alcohol at a bar. That said i dont go to bars much anymore. Not long ago a Baltimore city police officer was at a bar off duty and got into an altercation with someone. He then emptied his glock 22 on the person he was arguing with and now that LEO is in jail. __________________ Kill em all and let God sort em out! USAF

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