Blue dot mistake

kestak · December 14, 2007, 04:39 PM

Greetings,

You know the feeling: Aaaaaaaaaah [color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color]!!!!!!!!!!!

I just loaded 50 cartridges 357 Mag 158 gr over 10.2 gr of Blue dot with Wolf Magnum primers.

Blue dot does not require magnum primers
The maximum is 10.7 gr of blue dot for that kind of load.

Question: Do i discard those rounds or I can shoot them with no problem?

Thank you

crowbeaner · December 14, 2007, 05:02 PM

That depends on a number of factors; first can the gun withstand heavy loads? If so I don't think 1/2 grain less with a mag. primer will be too stiff. Blue Dot is one of the slower Alliant powders, and I've shot heavier charges than that with cast bullets. I used to shoot 11.0 with 162 swcs. Of course lead swages down easier than j bullets so only dropping the hammer on a cylinder full will tell. CB.

Scorch · December 14, 2007, 05:43 PM

That load should be fine. It will give you about 1,100 fps. My load for 357 out of the old Hornady book was higher than what you are loading and was nowhere close to max load, and I never had any problems. Recent reloading manuals have reduced 357 and 44 mag laods by about 10%-15% over what was considered safe until very recently.

joneb · December 14, 2007, 10:51 PM

It may depend on the gun you are shooting, I load 10.4-10.6 of Blue Dot for a 4" Colt Trooper and a 2.75" Security Six with 158gr JHP's and Small pistol primers. Your load should be fine but if you're shooting them out of a J frame

it maybe unpleasant.

red-rider · December 15, 2007, 03:21 AM

If your unsure about the load, set them aside, work up to the load like you would from scratch.

joneb · December 15, 2007, 03:48 AM

Quote:

If your unsure about the load, set them aside, work up to the load like you would from scratch.

Good answer

kestak · December 15, 2007, 07:32 AM

Greetings,

I went to the range yesterday (just before my company Xmas party)., brought my Taurus revolver, 5 rounds with the mag primers, and 2 with no mag primer, gloves, protective glasses, googles and my earmuffs (of course).

I talked to 2 old timers that I know (they are always there) and I was told it should not be a problem at all.

I put one round in the revolver and shot it. No issue. Then I shot the 4 reminding rounds and no issue at all.

I shot the 2 with non mag primer and did not notice any difference in sound, recoil or flash.

I'll just switch back to non mag primers and keep the 45 reminding rounds and shoot them.

Thank you

December 14, 2007, 04:39 PM	#1
kestak Senior Member Join Date: June 13, 2007 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 157	Blue dot mistake Greetings, You know the feeling: Aaaaaaaaaah [color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color][color=#FF0000]█[/color]!!!!!!!!!!! I just loaded 50 cartridges 357 Mag 158 gr over 10.2 gr of Blue dot with Wolf Magnum primers. Blue dot does not require magnum primers The maximum is 10.7 gr of blue dot for that kind of load. Question: Do i discard those rounds or I can shoot them with no problem? Thank you __________________ abundans cautela non nocet

December 14, 2007, 05:02 PM	#2
crowbeaner Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2007 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 1,943	That depends on a number of factors; first can the gun withstand heavy loads? If so I don't think 1/2 grain less with a mag. primer will be too stiff. Blue Dot is one of the slower Alliant powders, and I've shot heavier charges than that with cast bullets. I used to shoot 11.0 with 162 swcs. Of course lead swages down easier than j bullets so only dropping the hammer on a cylinder full will tell. CB. __________________ If you want your children to follow in your footsteps, be careful where you walk. Beware the man that only owns one gun; he probably knows how to use it. I just hope my ship comes in before my dock rots.

December 14, 2007, 05:43 PM	#3
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	That load should be fine. It will give you about 1,100 fps. My load for 357 out of the old Hornady book was higher than what you are loading and was nowhere close to max load, and I never had any problems. Recent reloading manuals have reduced 357 and 44 mag laods by about 10%-15% over what was considered safe until very recently. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

December 15, 2007, 03:21 AM	#5
red-rider Member Join Date: June 11, 2007 Location: Jonesboro, Arkansas Posts: 40	If your unsure about the load, set them aside, work up to the load like you would from scratch. __________________ www.nationalgunforum.com

December 15, 2007, 07:32 AM	#7
kestak Senior Member Join Date: June 13, 2007 Location: Augusta Georgia Posts: 157	Greetings, I went to the range yesterday (just before my company Xmas party)., brought my Taurus revolver, 5 rounds with the mag primers, and 2 with no mag primer, gloves, protective glasses, googles and my earmuffs (of course). I talked to 2 old timers that I know (they are always there) and I was told it should not be a problem at all. I put one round in the revolver and shot it. No issue. Then I shot the 4 reminding rounds and no issue at all. I shot the 2 with non mag primer and did not notice any difference in sound, recoil or flash. I'll just switch back to non mag primers and keep the 45 reminding rounds and shoot them. Thank you __________________ abundans cautela non nocet

December 14, 2007, 10:51 PM	#4
joneb Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2005 Location: Central , OR Posts: 1,888	It may depend on the gun you are shooting, I load 10.4-10.6 of Blue Dot for a 4" Colt Trooper and a 2.75" Security Six with 158gr JHP's and Small pistol primers. Your load should be fine but if you're shooting them out of a J frame it maybe unpleasant.