Smith and Wesson 586-3 good buy??? - Page 2

Sevens · August 31, 2013, 09:19 PM

Totally agree with your post, Winchester_73, and also specifically that the referenced post must have been entirely tongue-in-cheek.

I think it makes sense to note (as it seems to get LOST all the time) in that "price" or "value" can be looked at in a slew of ways.

People ask "what's it worth?" on a thread, and you almost need to scroll down the following list and choose before you can go forth with a number.

the price you would pay another 'regular guy' at a gun show, no tax, no forms, no shipping
the price after you add tax or shipping or the assistance of an FFL if required
the price you would expect or hope a gun store to offer you for it, understanding fully that the store is a "FOR PROFIT" business and does not exist simply to make your selling dreams come true (so many get downright offended that a dealer can't pay what you "believe" your gun is worth... if he DID, regularly, the joint would be boarded up in two months)
the price the same gun store would place on it when THEY have it and offer it for sale to their customers
the actual price they would allow themselves to come down to when a guy comes in to the shop and haggles on it, as our hobby/industry has made a common practice
the price a sporting goods retailer would sell at, that is non-negotiable and set by Corporate
the price one hobbyist gun guy might offer it to a buddy at, if the friend wanted to own it
the price that some folks would snag it at on the used market SPECIFICALLY in hopes of flipping it elsewhere for more money
a price you might submit for insurance coverage or a claim, which can be based on new MSRP, replacement of a devaluing asset or in less than NIB condition, etc etc
____ feel free to insert more real-world scenarios, as they *do* exist

Pick just one handgun from your safe and play this game with it, you could easily come up with a -LOT- of numbers, some close, some not so close.

jad0110 · September 1, 2013, 08:43 AM

Winchester,

I went back and read warningshot's post and I see your point. Though I do chuckle when I see posts from people insisting that S&W Model 27s aren't worth more than $350 because that's what they paid for them in the mid '90s

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Sevens · September 1, 2013, 08:06 PM

I was at a very large outdoor "event" today that spans four days every Labor Day weekend here near where I live. In the entire show, I saw -two- 586's, both were 6-inch guns. Both were priced decently (I thought) at $595.

There may have been other 586's, but I didn't see them.

I saw a grand total of ZERO 581s or 681s. Which I find to be about right. I rarely see them.

686's? Of all barrel lengths and engineering changes, I must have seen dozens.

August 31, 2013, 09:19 PM	#26
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,756	Totally agree with your post, Winchester_73, and also specifically that the referenced post must have been entirely tongue-in-cheek. I think it makes sense to note (as it seems to get LOST all the time) in that "price" or "value" can be looked at in a slew of ways. People ask "what's it worth?" on a thread, and you almost need to scroll down the following list and choose before you can go forth with a number. the price you would pay another 'regular guy' at a gun show, no tax, no forms, no shipping the price after you add tax or shipping or the assistance of an FFL if required the price you would expect or hope a gun store to offer you for it, understanding fully that the store is a "FOR PROFIT" business and does not exist simply to make your selling dreams come true (so many get downright offended that a dealer can't pay what you "believe" your gun is worth... if he DID, regularly, the joint would be boarded up in two months) the price the same gun store would place on it when THEY have it and offer it for sale to their customers the actual price they would allow themselves to come down to when a guy comes in to the shop and haggles on it, as our hobby/industry has made a common practice the price a sporting goods retailer would sell at, that is non-negotiable and set by Corporate the price one hobbyist gun guy might offer it to a buddy at, if the friend wanted to own it the price that some folks would snag it at on the used market SPECIFICALLY in hopes of flipping it elsewhere for more money a price you might submit for insurance coverage or a claim, which can be based on new MSRP, replacement of a devaluing asset or in less than NIB condition, etc etc ____ feel free to insert more real-world scenarios, as they do exist Pick just one handgun from your safe and play this game with it, you could easily come up with a -LOT- of numbers, some close, some not so close. __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

September 1, 2013, 08:06 PM	#28
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,756	I was at a very large outdoor "event" today that spans four days every Labor Day weekend here near where I live. In the entire show, I saw -two- 586's, both were 6-inch guns. Both were priced decently (I thought) at $595. There may have been other 586's, but I didn't see them. I saw a grand total of ZERO 581s or 681s. Which I find to be about right. I rarely see them. 686's? Of all barrel lengths and engineering changes, I must have seen dozens. __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

September 1, 2013, 08:43 AM	#27
jad0110 Senior Member Join Date: May 30, 2007 Posts: 761	Winchester, I went back and read warningshot's post and I see your point. Though I do chuckle when I see posts from people insisting that S&W Model 27s aren't worth more than $350 because that's what they paid for them in the mid '90s .