Actual Hands On facts...recoil 500 vs 460

DiscoRacing · October 14, 2010, 03:05 PM

Just curious if anyone has both a 500 S&W and a 460 S&W??? And can tell which has the most recoil?? I have a 500 with 8 3/8 barrel,,,and am getting soon a 460 with 8 3/8 barrel..and was just wondering which will have more recoil....after reloading...i will be loading mine with 440 gr casts for the 500,,,and 300 gr casts for the 460.... tkx in advance for any help.

Action_Can_Do · October 14, 2010, 05:35 PM

The 500 S&W has more recoil, when both guns are loaded with full-power ammunition. And yes, I own both.

DiscoRacing · October 14, 2010, 07:22 PM

Tkx pal.... I had this talk with the guys at the shop today....and I thought the 500 would have more...but they tried to tell me that they heard that the 460 is more...but they dont have either one.

The Terminator · October 14, 2010, 07:41 PM

Here are a couple of videos, of me, shooting my 500 mag. One is a Smith PC 500, the other is a BFR 500. The Smith is shooting mild handloads, and the BFR is shooting 440 Corbons, very powerful. I haven't shot a 460, so don't know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-bvmkzqv_k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z_5XUbMJEk

DiscoRacing · October 14, 2010, 07:44 PM

Ted needs to lock arms..

chiefr · October 14, 2010, 07:53 PM

I own a 500 and have shot the 460. IMHO, the 500 has far more recoil when you consider the heavier bullets. Lighter bullets around 320 gr in the 500 are manageable and recoil is comparable to the 460 with max loads & heavy bullets.
Having said that, when you fire bullets of > 400 grains out of the 500, the recoil is much more noticeable.

The Terminator · October 14, 2010, 07:56 PM

Ted does not like to lock his arms when he shoots, that's me by the way.

Ted can shoot more accurately when he does not hold the gun like he is afraid of it. If Ted actually gets hit in the head, hopefully it will not be on video, he will think about locking his arms.

DiscoRacing · October 14, 2010, 07:57 PM

LOL... just hackin on ya ted... I know thats you... and the BFR didnt come too far from that head that you were speaking of.

The Terminator · October 14, 2010, 08:02 PM

I knew you were kidding. Still, look around on you tube for Leroy, shooting a snubby 500 mag, he got whacked good. Sorry for the drift...

DiscoRacing · October 14, 2010, 08:04 PM

Thas ok.... Im thinking about getting a lighter bullet for my 500s....I like the barnes bullets...but damn they are pricey.

darkgael · October 14, 2010, 10:50 PM

Difficult to compare perceived recoil for many shooters......but free recoil is just a simple matter of physics.
Take two guns and cartridges - caliber makes little or no difference - load them with the same weight bullets with the same amount and type of propellant to the same velocity and fire them in guns of the same weight and design and recoil will be the same.
Change any one of the details above and recoil will change. A shooter's perception of that recoil, however, may depend on other factors - experience with heavy recoiling guns, size and anatomy of the shooter's hand, sensitivity to muzzle blast, etc.
As described in the OP, the 500 will have more recoil......unless the 300 grainers are wildly faster. (440grains at 1625 fps from a 3lb gun = 80 ft.lbs free recoil. 300 grains at 2060 fps from a 3lb gun = 63 ft.lbs free recoil)
Pete

DiscoRacing · October 23, 2010, 02:55 PM

Shot the 460 yesterday... much to my surprise the recoil difference between the two was minimal.

brian45auto · October 24, 2010, 01:39 PM

what fer wood stocks do you have on the 8.375"er?

Action_Can_Do · October 24, 2010, 06:12 PM

Terminator
You really should keep your finger off the trigger while making adjustments to the scope. The BC gap blast on those things can do real damage.

DPris · October 25, 2010, 01:22 AM

Never had any interest in the .500, but I have fired a .460 snub one-handed.
It wasn't bad at all.
Denis

October 14, 2010, 03:05 PM	#1
DiscoRacing Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: milton, wv Posts: 3,640	Actual Hands On facts...recoil 500 vs 460 Just curious if anyone has both a 500 S&W and a 460 S&W??? And can tell which has the most recoil?? I have a 500 with 8 3/8 barrel,,,and am getting soon a 460 with 8 3/8 barrel..and was just wondering which will have more recoil....after reloading...i will be loading mine with 440 gr casts for the 500,,,and 300 gr casts for the 460.... tkx in advance for any help. __________________ Desert Eagle Alliance Group Launcher Extraordinaire ______ ----Get Busy Live'n.....Or....Get Busy Die'n......Red -------They call me Dr. Bob,,,, I have a PhD in S&W

October 14, 2010, 07:22 PM	#3
DiscoRacing Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: milton, wv Posts: 3,640	Tkx pal.... I had this talk with the guys at the shop today....and I thought the 500 would have more...but they tried to tell me that they heard that the 460 is more...but they dont have either one. __________________ Desert Eagle Alliance Group Launcher Extraordinaire ______ ----Get Busy Live'n.....Or....Get Busy Die'n......Red -------They call me Dr. Bob,,,, I have a PhD in S&W

October 14, 2010, 07:41 PM	#4
The Terminator Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2002 Location: Georgia, 35 miles Northwest of the armpit Posts: 946	Here are a couple of videos, of me, shooting my 500 mag. One is a Smith PC 500, the other is a BFR 500. The Smith is shooting mild handloads, and the BFR is shooting 440 Corbons, very powerful. I haven't shot a 460, so don't know. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-bvmkzqv_k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z_5XUbMJEk __________________ The Terminator John 3:16 (I hope to see You over there.)

October 14, 2010, 07:44 PM	#5
DiscoRacing Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: milton, wv Posts: 3,640	Ted needs to lock arms.. __________________ Desert Eagle Alliance Group Launcher Extraordinaire ______ ----Get Busy Live'n.....Or....Get Busy Die'n......Red -------They call me Dr. Bob,,,, I have a PhD in S&W

October 14, 2010, 07:56 PM	#7
The Terminator Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2002 Location: Georgia, 35 miles Northwest of the armpit Posts: 946	Ted does not like to lock his arms when he shoots, that's me by the way. Ted can shoot more accurately when he does not hold the gun like he is afraid of it. If Ted actually gets hit in the head, hopefully it will not be on video, he will think about locking his arms. __________________ The Terminator John 3:16 (I hope to see You over there.)

October 14, 2010, 05:35 PM	#2
Action_Can_Do Senior Member Join Date: May 28, 2005 Posts: 227	The 500 S&W has more recoil, when both guns are loaded with full-power ammunition. And yes, I own both.

October 14, 2010, 07:53 PM	#6
chiefr Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2010 Location: AR Posts: 1,401	I own a 500 and have shot the 460. IMHO, the 500 has far more recoil when you consider the heavier bullets. Lighter bullets around 320 gr in the 500 are manageable and recoil is comparable to the 460 with max loads & heavy bullets. Having said that, when you fire bullets of > 400 grains out of the 500, the recoil is much more noticeable.

October 14, 2010, 07:57 PM	#8
DiscoRacing Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: milton, wv Posts: 3,640	LOL... just hackin on ya ted... I know thats you... and the BFR didnt come too far from that head that you were speaking of. __________________ Desert Eagle Alliance Group Launcher Extraordinaire ______ ----Get Busy Live'n.....Or....Get Busy Die'n......Red -------They call me Dr. Bob,,,, I have a PhD in S&W

October 14, 2010, 08:02 PM	#9
The Terminator Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2002 Location: Georgia, 35 miles Northwest of the armpit Posts: 946	I knew you were kidding. Still, look around on you tube for Leroy, shooting a snubby 500 mag, he got whacked good. Sorry for the drift... __________________ The Terminator John 3:16 (I hope to see You over there.)

October 14, 2010, 08:04 PM	#10
DiscoRacing Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: milton, wv Posts: 3,640	Thas ok.... Im thinking about getting a lighter bullet for my 500s....I like the barnes bullets...but damn they are pricey. __________________ Desert Eagle Alliance Group Launcher Extraordinaire ______ ----Get Busy Live'n.....Or....Get Busy Die'n......Red -------They call me Dr. Bob,,,, I have a PhD in S&W

October 14, 2010, 10:50 PM	#11
darkgael Senior Member Join Date: February 9, 2006 Location: Homes in Brooklyn, NY and in Pennsylvania. Posts: 5,473	recoil Difficult to compare perceived recoil for many shooters......but free recoil is just a simple matter of physics. Take two guns and cartridges - caliber makes little or no difference - load them with the same weight bullets with the same amount and type of propellant to the same velocity and fire them in guns of the same weight and design and recoil will be the same. Change any one of the details above and recoil will change. A shooter's perception of that recoil, however, may depend on other factors - experience with heavy recoiling guns, size and anatomy of the shooter's hand, sensitivity to muzzle blast, etc. As described in the OP, the 500 will have more recoil......unless the 300 grainers are wildly faster. (440grains at 1625 fps from a 3lb gun = 80 ft.lbs free recoil. 300 grains at 2060 fps from a 3lb gun = 63 ft.lbs free recoil) Pete __________________ “Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports ... all others are games.” Ernest Hemingway ... NRA Life Member Last edited by darkgael; October 14, 2010 at 11:03 PM.

October 23, 2010, 02:55 PM	#12
DiscoRacing Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: milton, wv Posts: 3,640	Shot the 460 yesterday... much to my surprise the recoil difference between the two was minimal. __________________ Desert Eagle Alliance Group Launcher Extraordinaire ______ ----Get Busy Live'n.....Or....Get Busy Die'n......Red -------They call me Dr. Bob,,,, I have a PhD in S&W

October 24, 2010, 01:39 PM	#13
brian45auto Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2009 Location: eastern pa Posts: 499	what fer wood stocks do you have on the 8.375"er? __________________ it's only metal, we can out think it.....

October 24, 2010, 06:12 PM	#14
Action_Can_Do Senior Member Join Date: May 28, 2005 Posts: 227	Terminator You really should keep your finger off the trigger while making adjustments to the scope. The BC gap blast on those things can do real damage.

October 25, 2010, 01:22 AM	#15
DPris Member Emeritus Join Date: August 19, 2004 Posts: 7,133	Never had any interest in the .500, but I have fired a .460 snub one-handed. It wasn't bad at all. Denis