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Old May 24, 2010, 08:07 PM   #1
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Chokes

Hi all.
I would like to know,
What is the tightest chokes you can use for buckshot?
Can you use a turkey choke?
If not, What is the largest shot size you can use in a turkey choke?

Thanks
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Old May 24, 2010, 10:53 PM   #2
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Generally not recommended, but I don't always follow recommendations. What exact model choke tube do you have? An extended EF tube might be worth trying; I wouldn't try a turkey tube marked SF.

Shot material is more important then size. Lead is very soft; if you shoot steel or one of the harder non-toxic loads, it could bridge and blow open the end of your barrel.
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Old May 24, 2010, 11:01 PM   #3
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I don't have one but i'm thinking of getting one.
And it'd be used for lead not steel.
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Old May 24, 2010, 11:30 PM   #4
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If you try it, get a couple different loads. It's surprising how much difference you can get with a buffered load or a better wad.

See test #44 & #45: http://www.theboxotruth.com
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Old May 24, 2010, 11:44 PM   #5
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Can I shoot slugs or buckshot through a "smoothbore" field barrel with Accu-Chokeā„¢ tubes? (500/505/535/9200/88/930 models)
Yes, and with sabots or rifled slugs, the more "open" the choke tube, the better the accuracy ("Improved Cylinder" recommended.) The "full" or "modified" choke tubes are preferred for buckshot loads. Slugs, buckshot and steel shot loads are not recommended for use with an extra full "turkey tube" installed, due to the tube's tight constriction. Do not fire any load without a choke tube installed, doing so will damage the internal choke tube threads.


http://www.mossberg.com/content.asp?...tion=resources
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Old May 25, 2010, 07:44 AM   #6
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I know the last part of that statement is incorrect because I tried it on my 500. I was testing a couple turkey tubes and forgot to put one back in.
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Old May 25, 2010, 01:32 PM   #7
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I'm sure there was luck involved lasershot. Choke threads are very fine and wouldn't take much to damage them.
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Old May 25, 2010, 01:56 PM   #8
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haha @ telling people they're incorrect because you happened to do something one time and didn't ruin your barrel. do us a favor, go shoot your gun regularly without the tube threaded in. report back after a few hundred-thousand rounds.
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Old May 25, 2010, 02:35 PM   #9
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I am not an engineer, but...I would guess that the issue, as long as we're talking about lead buckshot (and I have never seen any that wasn't), is damage to the pellets rather than to the muzzle area of the barrel. Deformed shot will fly erratically and pattern poorly, but I think that's the worst that will happen. I could be wrong...
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Old May 25, 2010, 02:39 PM   #10
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NEVER shoot without a choke tube !
ALWAYS pattern your loads .You can get some surprises here. Look for spread and uniformity .Hardened shot and buffered shot will give more uniform patterns. With steel BB shot I get EXTRA EXTRA Full pattern with my Benelli with MOD choke !!
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Old May 25, 2010, 04:09 PM   #11
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Shooting without a tube installed is asking for a hassle that is unnecessary. Thread damage, grit, plastic buildup can all cause irreparable damage. Not worth it.

As to the original query, depending on what your goal is, most mid-range chokes will work just fine
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Old May 25, 2010, 06:35 PM   #12
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Just for total clarity, my post addresses the OP's original question.

I totally agree that no shot, of any material or size, should go down the barrel without a choke tube properly and fully installed.
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Old May 25, 2010, 08:44 PM   #13
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This site has some buckshot pattern results:
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Mossberg 500 (12ga. 3")
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Buckshot Load With A .660 2" Extended Rhino Choke
B301 #00 Buck - All 18 in a 24" circle at 50 yards

http://www.nitrocompany.com/pattern.htm
I think .660 would be a "Super Full" choke tube.



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haha @ telling people they're incorrect because you happened to do something one time and didn't ruin your barrel.
It was a mistake on my part, but there was no harm done. Technically, this does indicate that the Mossberg FAQ is factually incorrect; instead of:
"doing so will damage the internal choke tube threads.",

they should have said:
"doing so may damage the internal choke tube threads."
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